Hmm, got it. Now, does that same shape change happen in the rib cage as well?

Awesome. Okay. So the center of gravity as far as its superior, inferior direction will be slightly up. Yeah. Okay. Because of that, because of the sacral position. Now, again, it is compressed forward. So it's not in its most superior representation. But because it is an ER representation, it's not going to be, you're not maximally pushing into the ground. Okay. Right. As you get to the sticking point, now you're going to be pushing down, right? So your density, the physical density of your structure increases, the nutation increases, and the downward force increases.

When you bend the hip and the knee, it's placing weight over the hip, which in a perfect world, that should put load into the table. But he's not turning back to the table, and so that would limit the hip flexion.

Why are you pushing this hamstring thing? What are you trying to accomplish?

OK. As they move on the oblique, and we're going to talk about the right side. We're going to talk about the right side of the pelvis, right hip, right lower extremity, okay? As they move on the right oblique, what are they going to lose the most on the right side first?

Same principle. It's like, okay, if they can control foot position, knee position, hip position, I'm okay with just driving split squat all day long every day.

Would they be closer together?

I would say a farmer carry. This is nebulous, but if my memory is correct, by using a farmer carry, I kind of encourage pronation and mid-position, whereas with a rack carry, I would kind of bias her towards end-range.

Okay. Yeah. Got it. Right. I have to have a moment where I stop that energy. Right. So there's a moment where I stop it. Then I reverse the gears. Now I'm going to move towards an early representation on the lead leg, which would be the left leg in a right-handed golfer. And I'm going to be in a late representation on the right side. There's a tremendous moment right as your arms are parallel to the ground. That's where you're going to try to stop as much of the motion as possible. That's what translates more energy into the club head.

Okay, not, yeah.

Okay.

Say late.

Correct. The left ilium is more externally rotated than the right one, also on the left side.

Okay. I mean, so, so you're just dealing with a lot of concentric orientation and, and she, she has progressed through probably almost all of your superficial compensatory strategies based on your description, right? So if she's got like upper DR compression, then chances are you don't have a lot of space for her to play with. You're putting her in positions where she gets a little bit more of the anterior expansion based on your description, and then that's what starts to make her feel good, right? So like the quadruped, is going to give her a little bit of anterior expansion under the circumstance. It also may allow her belly to expand a little bit more in that position. So again, you're giving her space to create some diaphragm movement. but it's not an exhaled representation. You're just giving her a little bit more space to move her guts forward and it allows her to take a deeper breath. So, and then you put her, you put her in a position where she can't expand her belly. So the child's pose versus the, the quadruped is a little bit of a tell for you. It's like you compress her belly, right? And you give her a position that would give her post your expansion, which she does not have. Okay. And then you took away the one place where she could expand easily, which was her belly. And now she can't breathe.

Start posterior lower on the right side. She's a wide ISA.

It's okay. Expansion there. So the expansion is, so if you think about like the, if this would be representative of like an ISA, this would be moving forward in that direction. Right?

My question is regarding communication with clients. So, you know, one of the things I love about the way that you think and the way that we're all starting to think is that there's so much more complexity to this whole exercise and movement thing than most people appreciate. And that complexity is obviously so important for us as coaches to acknowledge, right? And to be able to sort of grasp in any given moment. But with clients, you know, I noticed when I started to get all of this going on in my head, I would catch myself being very long-winded or I would like, I would write or I would just say too many things and like the hip, blah, blah, blah. And so I think I've been doing well to sort of try to boil it down much more simply with clients. But I was wondering if you could speak to maybe the way that you approach that and sort of your thought process for simplifying what we're trying to do with the clients. I have a lot of clients who do like the explanation. They do like the understanding of exactly why the session is the way it is. And I don't want to confuse anyone. I want it to be as simple as it can be as straightforward as possible.

Because when you get anterior knee pain, like, and again, it's not going to matter too much as to which knee, but the back knee, anterior knee pain in a split stance is always somebody that cannot capture the IR representation.

Related to some of my experience, I am experiencing, rightfully so, some hesitancy in coaching because I'm aware that the model to which I was coaching exercises is not the way I would like to see now in terms of compression and expansion with movement. And so I am wondering if it is possible to indeed overcoach a movement to get it to look a certain way, but you're actually not achieving the relative position that we're looking for. So is it more a question of if you can put them in the position and they can get there with some ease, without having to fight them to get there? Then that's a good sign they have relative motion. I mean, coaching aside, whether you coach them well into the position is another discussion with the right cues, needing intent and whatever. But is it better to just not overcoach? Just like, if you can't get the requisite position, that's not the right exercise selection or positional choice for you right now. And then understand the why.

Oh, sure, yes.

Hmm.

Yes.

Okay. So let's look at a first principle. What you don't have to mute. We're going to have a conversation. I'm going to type my notes. I got you. All right. So, what do we do when a therapist or the equivalent, some kind of clinician that does manual therapy is applying it, what are we actually applying to the human being? Force? Okay, so is there an easier way, you're right, is there an easier way for me to describe that in regards to what we talk about as far as how things move? How do things move, Grace? There's only two options. Water like fluid.

Days of the week, maybe? I don't know. No, I think if you can address all of that, I think that becomes very powerful. Because that's a lot of information available to you to make a decision. The hard thing is going to be categorizing activities. Because some things are very similar, and then we go back to Zach's question: we can see the difference in yielding actions based on time and within the same exercise. It's very easy. If we're just talking about some kind of squat exercise, we can distinguish things from a force standpoint. But can you see the differences between, say, hurdle jumps and split squats? It becomes very complex. So what you're going to do there is just make sure your intention is included in that activity. Then the question is: is it enough to have the impact for the change you desire? If I'm trying to capture an early propulsive strategy and I put somebody in a split squat with their foot on a ramp, I could also do a TRX squat where they're leaning backwards and capture early there too. Which one should I use?

I mean, a squat.

Okay. I see what you mean.

I appreciate it.

Yeah. Okay.

OK. When you say complications, was it like lymphedema or something like that? Or was it something? Did she have radiation?

Okay. You give her a shot. Right. You always give her a chance.