Right.

When you say pick the arm up, you mean to have them do it actively?

And from there. Okay. Hang on. One moment, please. Okay. All right. Where do you apply force to the ground? Okay. Where do you apply force to the ground matters. Okay. Jordan Velez, listen to me. Okay. Where you apply force to the ground matters, how you apply force to ground matters. Okay. So when we talk about positioning of foot, what are the, what are the contacts that just, that I talked about incessantly?

I like that step up idea. Could you expand on that a little bit?

I feel like I can't do that. I can't move the foot either.

Correct.

Yeah.

The closing of the ISA is a compensatory strategy to produce an exhale on somebody that is biased towards inhalation. The system is already in its expanded inhaled ERD representation. This is a person that has such a strong bias towards inhalation that they have to find a way to exhale. So they use a compensatory strategy to exhale. That is using a superficial muscle like external oblique to close the ISA so that diaphragm can move up into the exhaled representation.

Yup.

On the oblique, yes. Because again, you're starting from, you're immediately tipping on this oblique, which is going to take that right side forward, which is the IR compensatory strategy. So they can't get their leg back behind them.

Gotcha. So in a situation where you hold at the bottom for like, we'll call it 20 seconds or 30 seconds and you're just feeling like, hold the position, breathe, try and let go of the muscle. What exactly is happening when you're letting go of the muscle? I mean, it's some type of—It's joint position changing.

Yes, definitely.

So Ivan's first question really got me going on the structure of the wide ISA versus the narrow ISA. I think for the first time, I'm starting to understand the structural differences visually, but that's why I want to run it by you. If I'm completely wrong, that would be helpful to know. I'm looking at the skeleton over here and I'm thinking that if you have somebody who has a wide ISA bias and they have the wider infrapubic angle by default, if you were to compare just by design alone— not somebody who's using compensatory strategies— wouldn't you expect to see that the wide ISA pelvis is slightly more posteriorly oriented at rest in standing? Because of the way the flattening brings the pubis forward, wouldn't you expect the standing position of the wide ISA pelvis, just by structure, to be slightly more posteriorly oriented?

You can send a pig, a pig through their legs.

Push, right? They're trying to get more internal rotation. They don't have the capability of producing the force. So they have to go into compensatory strategy to create the IR.

Okay, but ask that again.

Okay. And then they get pushed into a space where they can't produce any force. They literally get lifted away from the ground. I want to stay as close to the ground as I can within a range that allows me to produce maximum force into the ground. So I'm going to produce maximum force forward because that's where my opponent is.

To that question would be, it depends. You don't know until you do, but how do you go about bringing someone back more slowly or not as far versus bringing them back more quickly and further with like with a given exercise?

Then the lateral sled drags, I think of that as just how you would use rolling from your back to your side, but you're standing up and you're moving weight.

Like you don't even need to go that far.

Yeah. You turn away from the measurement. That's cervical spine turning away where you're usually buying that space. The same thing happens in the hip all the time. It's just that the leg might be heavy enough that it doesn't allow the spine to turn. And again, this is why you measure in reference to the table. So you can understand which way they are moving under those circumstances. You get a magnification of external rotation when it's typically rotation toward you. You get a magnification of internal rotation when it's typically rotation away.

My English isn't that good. What does fun mean? I thought it was like, you know, fun, not frustrating.

So here's the coolest thing. For the waiter's carry representation you just described, we picked up left hip internal rotation. We picked up a late representation on the right side for the jerk, the rear leg of the jerk, and you eliminated the internal rotation compensatory strategy they're using. As I said, it's like a big bang exercise for the people you're talking about.

So many people, including myself, really have a hard time getting the first metatarsal head down because they're so far on the outside edge of their foot. They stay in this kind of supinated foot position, which makes it difficult to get the first metatarsal head down. Or you can get the big toe down, but not the first metatarsal head, so you're not really achieving pronation.

So on that note, and kind of on the tail end of all of those, what do you think that personally, like inside of you—not outside of your environment or not necessary to learning—but you personally on the inside made you successful or made you who you are now? Like, I know that you've put out some of the answers, but what do you think are the three most successful traits in you?

You know, and then there's days where I try everything and like nothing works.

If it's a range of motion problem, we do the exact same thing. We're tracking a number of things over time, and then we kind of see what's most important, what we really need to do. Here's the cool thing: with the model that I've constructed, we have representations of certain behaviors which people are biased towards. We know what you're supposed to be good at already, and then we compare that and say how that changes over time and what influences that over time. We actually have archetypes. When we talk about people with wide infrastructural angles or narrow infrastructural angles, there's a whole archetype. We're not just looking at that angle as a singular entity. What we're looking at is how this person produces force compared to somebody who has maybe a more steep helical angle. How does this influence what range of motions they're going to be biased towards? Your narrow ISA people tend to have more external rotation. So the layback and end position tends to be more naturally produced. They're all biased towards certain things. We monitor these things over time, and that's how you do it. You can't just say that here's the quarterback program because this is throwing and then apply it to everybody the same way. We apply the principles the same way, but we have to monitor them for change because we don't know what the outcome is going to be. Somebody might need a lot of strength training; somebody might not need very much at all to make the same effective change because of what they bring to the table. All of this is idiosyncratic. It's very individualized. What we're using is a model to help us determine the best course of interventions. It's the best starting point, and that allows us to make better decisions along the way.

Yes.

So it wasn't so much pain. It was like this inner aspect. He just had a huge space there. For a rack position, he couldn't even get there. He was blocked because this medial aspect was just pointing out.

If you want to address this turn, bench press is probably not on your list of things to do. Chances are if you're trying to do what would appear to be a symmetrical activity, you're using your asymmetrical strategy because it is the predominant strategy. So chances are you're going to continue to emphasize what you're trying to manage. So from a strategy standpoint, from your exercise program standpoint, you're going to want to emphasize the asymmetrical activities that teach advantage and create movement in the opposing direction. Bilateral symmetrical activities are not the appropriate influence if this is a big enough concern for you. If it's not, like if the asymmetry is not a problem for you and it's not a problem for a lot of people, but if it's a problem for you, then by all means continue to do so, but understand that you're probably going to continue to emphasize this initial strategy that we're talking about. So I think that if you really want to address this, you're going to have to stick with one-sided activities, asymmetrical activities, that allow you to capture the early representation of propulsion and then make that left-hand turn. That might be why you have a bench-press problem is because you're using the asymmetrical strategy.