Okay? All right. No, again, I just want you to see where these representations take place. Okay? So if I have the capacity to move the hip through the excursion of what would be traditional flexion, the pelvis has to be able to change its shape. It has to be able to access an ER position and the IR position for me to have that full excursion. It's not just the hip joint like pivoting in the acetabulum. It's like, if you don't get the shape change that's associated approximately, you don't have that range of motion. It stops. Like literally it stops moving. And so again, that's, I think that's the question that you're asking. It's like, it's like to throw out a number at you. I don't know how valuable it would be. But you, what you would do is again, this is where the averages are actually useful. It's like, I can make a comparison, but then I have to understand it's like, where am I measuring this? Right? So if you measure hip internal rotation with the hip bent 90 degrees.

You have to de-load. You have to put pressure down.

Okay. So lock that right, that right knee out straight for me. Is that the position? So if you're trying to untwist that knee, is that the position you want to put the knee in? No. No, of course not. Doesn't make much sense, right? You just constrained it into the position that you're trying to get it out of. Okay. So if that was your hand, if that was your right hand and right arm supporting you in an oblique sit, would that be the best choice?

Dorsal rostro thorax is concentrically oriented. That's a compressive strand. If I push through the ground and I'm still going forward, gravity doesn't stop. It's still there. You're still going in that direction. But you're slowing down. It's the yield. If you give way, if you allow yourself to move in that forward direction, scapulae are going to approximate.

Yeah, so we do oblique sit variations a lot of the times because those are middle representations and then I can work proximal to distal on those. And then depending on whether I'm high or low, then I can influence which segment I'm emphasizing, right? That should get your brain started in the right direction.

Yeah, I get that.

Just like the concentric orientation and the right posterior lower now.

Yeah.

You have to execute the test on them. Okay. Because you'll be able to feel where the tension increases as you're executing the test. So you want to look at all-nerve neurodynamic tests, okay? You have to be able to execute it because you'll be able to feel the resistance at the elbow, you'll be able to feel the resistance at the wrist, and then you can correlate that to number one, the tension that you're feeling and number two, the symptoms that they may have at the time. You need a before and an after test other than the symptom because if they have some sensitivity, you might be successful with your reorientation but they still may have symptoms. Nerves are funny, they take a while to change, right?

In this conversation. For those of you that are looking for examples, I would guide you to my YouTube channel where you'll get all different representations of rolling activities there. So put that to good use. And then as always, if you have questions, go to askbillhardman at gmail.com. If you would like to participate in a 15 minute consultation with me, please go to askbillhardman at gmail.com and put 15 minute consultation in the subject line so I don't delete it. Please include your question in the email. Everybody have an outstanding Tuesday and I will see you tomorrow.

More acceleration.

Okay. You have a pelvic circumference that's a little bit bigger than the thoracic circumference, right? So velocity favors a downward representation, does it not? Okay. Now, hold the picture up again. Look at her feet. Get it closer and lift it up a little bit. Awesome. Is she pushing into the ground?

So what happens to the foot at the ground? Yes. There you go. Okay. So I just made space. And now I can drop down. So I move all the space back because if I went straight down, I wouldn't be able to go. So I push space backwards and now I can drop down right into what would be a middle representation. Now I have to hold the R representation to get there. And then I take my compressed sacrum and I bend it forward.

Let me give you another representation: You land on your left foot and it's out in front of your body. Your body continues to move forward and you push off the ground to the next step.

Here's my point. When you've got an AP compression and you're trying to restore turns, one of the limiting factors in the desired outcome, which is the restoration of those turns, is the fact that you don't have a big enough gradient. Okay. So if you have something that's AP compressed, you can create the cavitation at the joint level, but you might not get the change in muscle orientation that you need to create the joint movement. Okay. So here's what I would suggest. You do activities or manual therapies to create the expansive strategy first, then deliver your manual therapy. Now you've got a bigger gradient. So when you create, when you manipulate, you're creating an IR force. If you've got a position of the spine that's already IR'd, you might not have a big enough gradient to make the muscle change. Okay. Anytime, like if you do ART. Okay. So here you go. So you do your lower cervical, upper thoracic, ART stuff to create the expansion. So you're going to be going like upper trap, rhomboid, serratus posterior superior, right? All those. You get all of those, you do your lower cervical stuff as well with the turns. So you're going to do that, then deliver your high velocity stuff and you're going to get a much better response. You'll always get a better response with a better gradient. And it's not just the cavitations I'm talking about, I'm talking about the muscle orientation change because when you manipulate, you create an IR force on one side and the ER on the other side, you will get a reorientation of muscle and you will get a bigger turn. Do you see how it works?

I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, it would be unusual to see in the most accomplished lifters.

So I had a 16 year old volleyball player in last night and you want to talk about somebody that's changeable. It was very easy, it was like one of the easier visits of all time. Right. Then I had an older American football player in, and that was like pulling my teeth out. It was tough because again, it's like talking about two different worlds and two different levels of adaptation. Right. So again, it's like you're not representing anything unusual, but like understanding all of the potential or we're never going to stand at all the potential influences. You just want to get as many of those in play in our thought process because when you start thinking about, okay, I've got tissue representations, I've got muscle representations, I've got joint positions. If you can look at it through all of those lenses, it starts to present the options that will be available to you to try to influence this. You see it? That's the important thing about your question. It's like, what are my options? What do I have available? Where else can I go to create movement? If I can't create movement somewhere, where can I safely create movement elsewhere that literally they may have to use a compensatory strategy?

So again, I don't want to close those spaces, okay? Because they both create interference. I'm going to move my wide, I'm going to try to move my wide back towards a middle representation, okay? Because that's where their bias would be. I'm going to take my narrow and try to move them back to an early representation because that's where their bias would be.

I would say that you have femoral internal rotation on the tibia prior to the superposition of more external rotation that creates the Varus representation.

Do you enjoy being angry? No. Me neither. So I try to avoid it. I'm human. I have feelings that get hurt just like everybody else's, but the thing that you gain through becoming more aware of yourself is knowing what your triggers are. Avoid those. Don't go where people make you angry. Don't listen to people that say things that make you angry. And then above all else, words don't hurt. You decide whether they hurt. If somebody sends me nasty DMs, I think, 'How miserable do you need to be to send somebody an A to BM?' You have to feel sorry for that guy. I don't want to be angry. I don't go where it makes me angry. If I do, I catch myself as quickly as possible and ask, 'Is this really worth your time?' I'm old and my time is limited. I'm trying to maximize this to the best of my capabilities. Do I really want to spend time being angry? My wife and I have been together for 11 years. Neither of us knows how long we've been together, so we're perfect for each other. In all that time, I've probably been angry with her less than five minutes in 11 years. I love her. I'm going to spend eternity with her. Why would I waste a single moment being angry with somebody that I know I'm going to be with forever? I don't have to forgive her for much because we just don't have that kind of a relationship, but if I did, it would be instant forgiveness. She gets that from me because I decided that's how it's going to be. You have a lot of control. People think that they don't have control or they think they deserve to be angry or they think that they should be angry. Anger is to get your attention. It's to make you aware of something. It's like being afraid—being afraid is a response to get your attention. That's what emotions are for. Then you get to decide how you respond to that situation. Where is the benefit of anger? If I have to defend my life or defend my wife or defend my dog, don't get in my way. But other than that, there's really not a lot of necessity in it. That's what emotions are for. Any strong emotion that you've ever felt is to make sure that you attend to that. Joy is the same thing.

Does that make sense?

A visual reference, like other than the one you just demonstrated for everybody on this call.

Uh-huh. Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. His knee flexion and the butt improved tremendously once that started to move back in the correct direction. I guess a quick follow up, because I know you had talked previously about loading Achilles differences like a posterior calf that's compressed. Put them in a seated position, like a seated calf raise, make sure they're in the same position.

Is it early middle or late?

And this would probably be where you start to see like disc related pathologies, um, ligamentous problems, things like that.

Yes, that actually is really helpful. I had another talk in mind. Correct me on this one or tell me if that makes any sense. The potential mechanism of that would be the difficult biomechanical levers that we sort of cover in school, where potentially if you have posterior compression and you're starting to bend and then this stops the motion, you get that effect on the disc where you create a very strong compressive force. If you create a compression and expansion and you sort of just let the pressure go through the disc rather than accumulating in the disc, would that be also something that plays a role in this problem?

You ever see an x-ray that looks like that?

Uh, it's going to fall to the left.