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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_09 1:00:53–1:00:53
Yeah.
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_07 1:02:29–1:02:33
Oh yeah. That's why I was looking at it and asking about it.
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% Season 7 Number 4 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_04 1:38:58–1:39:11
Your responsibility is not to fix anybody. You can't do it. That's not your responsibility. You can't fix anybody.
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_02 1:00:53–1:01:46
And then they, they put their leg behind them. Like, is it called a couch stretch? Does that sound familiar? Yes. Give me a thumbs up if I'm saying something. I don't, I don't ever use that stretch because it doesn't do anything other than hurt. So they put their foot against something and then they lean back on it and they feel this really hard stretch and they think they're doing something. It's like, all you're doing is inflicting pain on yourself, which could be valuable under a certain circumstance. You might get a flexibility reserve out of it that might protect you under some circumstance, but you're not changing joint positions. All you're doing is trying to pull on a muscle that does not want to move. That's a concept oriented muscle that you're trying to lengthen. That's not eccentric orientation. When I say eccentric orientation, I'm talking about a muscle position that is representative of a specific behavior where there is no tension on that muscle.
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
Bill Hartman 1:02:33–1:02:52
Yeah. Well, okay. And then you watch their second pull. You watch their second pull and they overdue, like they pull their chin straight back. And then they go, 'Ooh, I felt that one.' You know? That's kind of what they're doing.
weightlifting techniquesecond pullchin positioning
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% Season 7 Number 4 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_06 1:39:11–1:39:12
Could you elaborate on that?
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_05 1:01:47–1:01:49
So in that case, I don't know if you can see that.
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_07 1:02:53–1:03:05
And usually what I'll see is like, once the bar gets above the knee, they tend to lean back and then the extension, instead of looking more straight, it's more back. So they have that late representation on the sacral base.
lifting mechanicssacral movementbarbell technique
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% Season 7 Number 4 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_04 1:39:14–1:39:37
They fix themselves. You're there to guide and create an environment that allows their system to behave a certain way that it didn't behave before. It is the behavior of their system that is the solution. Our job is to try to figure out the best way for them to be able to access their abilities to do that. We don't fix anything. You are interacting with a system and you poke them and you go, what happened? And you go, I like that. That was a good thing. I'm going to poke you right there again. And we're going to keep poking that until it's no longer useful. And then we're going to poke something else. And we're going to poke that spot. And then we'll see what happens there. Ooh, I don't like that. I'm not going to do that anymore. I'm going to come back over here and I'm going to try to find something to poke over this away. And that's the process. It is a process. Because you have no idea what you're influencing. I'll do respect to all the science that we think that we understand. And there are some things that are useful for understanding as far as how we influence things. But ultimately, we don't know. And be comfortable with that. That's the hard thing. It's like, everybody wants to be the fixer. It's like, nothing could be more ego satisfying than to do something with someone. And they go, wow, I feel so much better than you go, me to go me. Reality is, you help them. You help them create an environment that allowed them to be successful. You're not successful; they are.
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_02 1:01:49–1:01:53
I cannot see that. Hang on a second. Let me pin you so I can, maybe I can see it.
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
Bill Hartman 1:03:05–1:03:06
There you go.
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% Season 7 Number 4 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_06 1:39:38–1:39:39
Okay.
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_05 1:02:03–1:02:11
So that's pretty good. That's pretty cool. So, but just for the like, let's say the yielding and overcoming part. Um, so I guess that yielding would be either receiving or storing energy or lengthening and overcoming. That's how you want to look at that.
yieldingovercomingenergy storagemuscle lengthening
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_07 1:03:06–1:03:07
And then you're about back pain.
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% Season 7 Number 4 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_04 1:39:42–1:40:55
You are interacting with a system and you poke them and you go, what happened? And you go, I like that. That was a good thing. I'm going to poke you right there again. And we're going to keep poking that until it's no longer useful. And then we're going to poke something else. And we're going to poke that spot. And then we'll see what happens there. Ooh, I don't like that. I'm not going to do that anymore. I'm going to come back over here and I'm going to try to find something to poke over this away. And that's the process. It is a process. Because you have no idea what you're influencing. I'll do respect to all the science that we think that we understand. And there are some things that are useful for understanding as far as how we influence things. But ultimately, we don't know. And be comfortable with that. That's the hard thing. It's like, everybody wants to be the fixer. It's like, nothing could be more ego satisfying than to do something with someone. And they go, wow, I feel so much better than you go, me to go me. The reality is, the reality is that you help them. You help them create an environment that allowed them to be successful. You're not successful. They okay. Hey, I don't want to cut you off, brother, but I got to go. I got to grab another call. Okay, yeah, worries. I appreciate squeezing in. No worries. Have a great day. I'll see you later.
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_06 1:02:11–1:02:12
Yeah.
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
Bill Hartman 1:03:08–1:03:15
Yep. Yep. Yep. There you go. And again, so let's go back to Andrew's question for a second. They're going forward too fast. Right. So Andrew, in this case, we want to create a slowdown through middle. We want to hold them in middle a little bit longer so they don't go into late too fast.
movement mechanicstemporal controlmotor learning
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_05 1:02:12–1:02:20
So I guess that yielding would be either receiving or storing energy or lengthening and overcoming.
yieldingenergy storagetissue lengtheningovercoming
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_05 1:03:16–1:03:16
Yeah.
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_02 1:02:20–1:02:22
That's how you want to look at that.
yielding and overcomingconnective tissues
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
Bill Hartman 1:03:17–1:03:28
Right. So Andrew, in this case, we want to create a slowdown through middle. We want to hold them in middle a little bit longer so they don't go into late too fast.
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_05 1:02:22–1:02:25
Sorry to say that again.
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_09 1:03:28–1:03:30
So that they can push down into the ground harder.
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_02 1:02:25–1:02:31
It's an expansion of the connective tissues in a specific manner that would be compressing. Yes.
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
Bill Hartman 1:03:31–1:03:36
Thank you very much because Manuel, if they can push down into the ground harder, what happens?
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_05 1:02:32–1:02:34
Okay, wonderful.
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_07 1:03:38–1:03:39
They can't lift.
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_02 1:02:34–1:02:47
That was maybe the restiffening, if you will. So like we have an expansion of connective tissue that would either store or, depending on the distribution, it would dampen force.
connective tissuetissue mechanicsforce dampening
The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 3 Podcast
Bill:
Bill Hartman 1:03:39–1:03:51
No, no, no. If they push down into the ground, as they're performing their lift, instead of pushing up and forward, which is what they're doing, right? They're trying to go forward too fast. They push down to the ground. What happens?
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The Bill Hartman Podcast for The 16% - Season 11 - Number 8 Podcast
Bill:
SPEAKER_05 1:02:47–1:02:48
Wonderful. Thank you.