Yeah. I've thought about that too, like the discomfort, like as a student, you're trying to learn like, okay, I'm going to get everybody better. Like, how am I going to do that? And then not accepting the fact that that's just not going to happen literally hinders the learning process, in my opinion, because then you don't branch out and all these other things and I don't know, accepting that has just made it a lot easier for me.

Well, it's going to be pulled.

You would orient into what you would turn away from it.

You know, the frustration is good. Frustration is going to drive your progress. I need to know more. I need to understand better. I need to get, I need to refine like all of that is important. But at the end of the day, you have to say there's a limit.

It's going to compress. It's not going to pull it up. It's going to push it down. Yeah. The muscles trying to shorten against the resistance and so whatever can move will move. These are synovial joints. except for the first one, these are synovial joints, right? Boom, it's just gonna compress the sternum back and that is not an increase in relative motion.

Correct. So if I had it in my right hand, I'd be turning that way. If I had my left hand, I'd be turning that way. Right.

Yeah. And then if, I mean, if you do think that you're helping everybody, then you don't think that you need to improve, so you don't refine or do anything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why, again, it goes back to process. It's like, that's why you have a process, right? If you look at, you know, go, go, you ever read, um, uh, Jaco, uh, Willink's books?

It's not going to pull it up. It's going to push it down. The muscles are trying to shorten against the resistance, so whatever can move will move. These are synovial joints, except for the first one—these are synovial joints, right? Boom, it's just going to compress the sternum back, and that is not an increase in relative motion.

You might have one in both hands.

You ever read them?

So that is why I suppose with the terms you coined with your model, this is where eccentric, this is where orientation is strictly a comment about muscle behavior and not necessarily like the joint excursion. You could be concentric at what people would consider a stretch position. You could be concentric with a length, and then this is where also yielding and overcoming are more about the connective tissue behavior is correct. Okay. Cool. And in that case, so could you end up with like a concentric orientation with yielding action?

Or you go down, you go straight down.

Okay. You know who Jaco is?

That's what we just described.

So what I do is I cancel out the turns and I go straight down into middle P. There you go.

I do not.

Okay. Yeah. I suppose that would be getting into a cut.

And that's still just a, so you're just trying to reinforce middle P and end up relatively straight without, you know, that leaning back compensation.

Oh my gosh. You need to get out more. You owe anybody in school or something? No. He's got a whole series of books on leadership, but they talk about how the military goes through a process of debriefing after every mission where they ask the same questions. It's like, okay, what happened? What was the result? Was this the desired result? If it wasn't, where could we have improved? What could we have done better? And like, even when they're successful, they're asking these questions. They say, what could we have done better? What decisions did we make and how did those influence that? You have to go through the same process. You have to go through a debrief. Every time you work with somebody, you go through—whether you do it formally or subconsciously—you have to go through this process. Otherwise, you're not going to change. And if you don't change, then you're going to be that guy that has 30 years in, but not 30 years of experience.

I hope so. It's the connective tissues that provide the energy for the movement. The muscles are going to control joint positions so that the connective tissues behave appropriately so they can store and release the energy for movement. Otherwise, if we use muscle to move with, it would be exhausting. And it is sometimes for a lot of people because that's what they're trying to do. Yeah, they have very good connective tissue behavior to begin with.

Correct. Which is very difficult to do if you're on a single leg. So all we're doing is reinforcing where middle P is. Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay. So you're just moving them back just a little bit to get them to middle P because they're finishing a little bit late.

You don't want to be there. You don't want to be there. You do not want to be that guy.

And so I guess this is why when we're trying to change joint positions, we talk about less effort, not yet. Right. The people that are, you know, there's people that that complain about tight hip flexors and stuff like that. And then they put their leg behind them. Like, is it called a couch stretch? Does that sound familiar? Yeah. Give me a thumbs up if I'm saying something. I don't ever use that stretch because it doesn't do anything other than hurt. So they put their foot against something and then they lean back on it and they feel this really hard stretch and they think they're doing something. It's like, all you're doing is inflicting pain on yourself, which could be valuable under a certain circumstance. You might get a flexibility reserve out of it that might protect you under some circumstance, but you're not changing joint positions. All you're doing is trying to pull on a muscle that does not want to move, right? That's a concept oriented muscle that you're pulling to stretch. That's not eccentric orientation. When I say eccentric orientation, I'm talking about a muscle position that is representative of a specific behavior where there is no tension on that muscle.

There you go. Yep. It's like, have you ever had weight overhead back pain? Oh yeah. That's why I was looking at it and asking about it. Well, okay. And then you watch their second pull. You watch their second pull and they overdue it like they pull their chin straight back. And then they go, ooh, I felt that one. Yeah, that's kind of what they're doing.