If my goal is relative motions, which usually is when I get someone on a table and try to capture the experience, I cannot see when I would use a prolonged exhale during positional drills or floor-based rehab exercises.

I would definitely be working on the turns now. Let's talk about where she has access to movement. She's going to be compressed into your posterior based on the fact that your upper trapezius is compressed, which means that the amount of space that she has in front of her is going to be minimal. Anything that would be above shoulder level in front of her is probably going to be a no-go, because she doesn't really have that space, but she does have space that way. So all your pulls, your pushes, your chops, your lifts, all that stuff's going to be in that space.

It's not kind of separated. It is different. Like they are not the same. They're not the same.

Well, welcome. Welcome.

Okay. And they will just adjust over time as my interaction with them changes.

Am I correct?

Same concept. Okay. And if you were trying to, I was thinking about the application of that, if you were trying to drive just a yielding action, it would be counterproductive to kind of push out of that cut, right? Because you're going to be driving that impulse and you're going to be driving that concentric orientation again.

So we identify what they need first and foremost. If it's a performance related client, then performance is the goal. We identify what their needs are under those circumstances. And then we identify what the interference is, if there is any. So sometimes we get, like literally I had one dude that came in, use a picture for the Kenzie Royals. And I saw him walk in. I was like, this guy doesn't need me at all. Go train him. Do whatever you want. Like literally do whatever you want. He was like a specimen of this perfect representation of relative motions. perfectly happy, like, go lucky kind of a guy. And so we didn't really have any interference. So we could pick out, it's like, what do we need to focus on for performance? And we did that. The thing you want to do, though, is look at narrowing like this scope of what you're going to be working on. That will be very, very helpful. So if I need to raise performance, depending on the level of the athlete, the higher the level of the athlete, the smaller the window of change there is, therefore the greater volume of activity that is required to make a significant change. So force production is easy to talk about. Very rarely do I need to work on it with my professional athletes, but we do at times. So let's just say force production is the goal. And so I'm going to have them pull something up off the floor that's very, very heavy. So I can focus on that. So there's greatest training volume associated with the primary adaptation that we're chasing that has the greatest volume. I do all that. If there's anything that interferes that's associated with that, I spend most of my time undoing that to whatever degree that I can without interfering with the force production. So this is a tough thing to execute because I need something. But I don't want to take away, I don't want to destroy the efforts I just put this guy through to make a change. But that's basically how you do it. You say, okay, what do I need for performance? Is there something that, that if I gave him this, his performance could potentially improve. I gotta do it. What are the, what are the secondary consequences? And then, so when you and Nate get off this call and you guys hang out and you're talking about, okay, wait a minute. I got four configurations. I got two archetypes. I got four phases of propulsion and seven components of force.

What should I look for when pressing overhead? What should I look for when you have compression in the upper back? I've seen more commonly I see compression in the lower ribs and so basically in that case the back looks kind of like there's like a little bit of a kink and they're anteriorly oriented at the pelvis and they can't get the bar behind.

Okay. Yeah.

And by the way, that's the best place for you, considering what you do for a living.

of the wall of the foot. My confusion is that the foot is pointing out.

You're very welcome. You're very welcome.

OK. So she swayed forward. OK. She has a flat DR.

I'm trying to create a turn. Okay. So think about where you just put somebody on the right side. Okay. For a wide ISF. Okay. Center of gravity is towards the right heel. Okay.

Not at that level.

And I see that when I see lifters who are narrow and push forward and left when they have extension they have that same kind of foot orientation there.

Oh, sure. Where's the apex?

When you shrug it, the right side scap is going to be compressing against the thorax left side.

It's not possible.

OK. And we're speaking in relative terms here because, again, a 65-year-old person with wonky feet and a knee [condition]—you gotta take this with a grain of salt. So you have to understand what I'm saying. We're speaking in relative terms.

Yeah.

Okay, so we can just take our little conversation that we have with Ian and we can say what's the representation of the, let's just use a wide ISA. I tell you what, I'm going to mute you for a second. I got a little bit of an echo that bugs me when for some reason I echo in Russia. Okay. So if we use a wide ISA individual's pelvis, so they're biased towards middle. So we can use that as the representation of what's actually happening. Right, so from a sacral perspective, you get a nutated sacrum. You're going to have a DR that's also going to be, if we could call it nutated, it's going to be the same representation. So you're going to get the compressive strategy. This would look like a relatively upwardly rotated scapula relative to the dorsal rostrum. That would be the IR representation of the thorax. Do you understand that? Okay, so does that answer part of the question?

Okay, I know you see let's see here's but here's the difference it's like am I doing it from distal to proximal hand is free to move. Or am I driving it from here. And I think you want to drive it from here because if I do it from proximal to distal, that gives me the compressive strategy on this side mechanically. It's TMS. If I don't have a foot on the ground, how much IR can I produce?

So here's the problem. It's the position that you're using that is creating the interference to allow that compressive strategy to occur. All right, so let me give you an example. Raise your arms overhead, please. If you were to exhale hard as you can, to get all the air out, did your arms pull downward?

Yeah. Okay.

Exactly.

Absolutely. It evolves. This is a time-based thing. You have to give them an opportunity to change. You can't force them to do stuff. They have to figure it out. Your job is to guide them to change, not to make them change. You don't change anybody. You can only change yourself. You haven't screwed up anything. You're learning and evolving just like they are. You have to give yourself that opportunity too.

There was more asymmetry in the upper extremity measures than there were in the hip external rotation measures, so you saw bilateral hip ER matching.

Okay. So on the release of the tension, you're going to get this quick expansion of taking load away. You're taking the rate and the load away. So you're going to get this really quick expansion of the yield. So, okay, so I'm pulling you into it. So that's a higher tension and a higher rate of movement. Okay, connective tissue stiff. Take away the magnitude by releasing the band. There's a very quick release of tension. There's a quick expansion. So I get the yield at the end of the cut. Does that make sense?