OK. All right. Cool. And then, now think about this for a second: Do I want a slow tempo box squat? We're speaking in relative terms here because, again, a 65-year-old person with wonky feet and a knee—you gotta take this with a grain of salt. So you have to understand what I'm saying. We're speaking in relative terms.

All right, because I was looking at it like I want to reverse engineer how I got there, but if I want to go back to starting point with same sequence, I will compress the posterior scapula, for sure.

Because, again, it's kind of like we were talking about compensatory strategies. If you understand the sequence of events that got you there, then you can reverse engineer the sequence of events to get out of it. OK, good morning, happy Friday. I have neuro coffee in hand and it is perfect. All right. Kind of a crazy busy Friday. We're going to dig straight into today's Q&A. This is with Misha. Misha has some questions about walking. And we have to look at this from the perspective of shape change. So movement is shape change. Walking is movement. So walking is the shape change. And one of the questions that he had was in regards to the shape change, how we're creating these delay strategies. So when we talk about walking, we have turns that have to take place. One side of the body has to be able to get ahead of the other. So we have to create delay strategies because we can only move forward. And so we have to slow parts of your body down. And so this is how we do this. And we talk about the thorax, we talk about the pelvis and we talk about the foot specifically. So you get a good representation of how these shape changes occur, where they occur. And so you can start to understand when we talk about delay strategies and things like that in all these other discussions, you'll get a much clearer picture of that. So this is a great question from Misha. So thank you Misha. If you would like to participate in a 15-minute consultation, please go to askbillhartman@gmail.com. Remember to include your question in the email as well. I would really appreciate that. Podcasts will be up on Sunday. Don't forget to go to the YouTube channel and subscribe so you can get all the videos at any time. Everybody have an outstanding weekend, and I'll see you next week, Misha.

You see it?

I see what your problem is. OK.

Got it. Yep.

Okay. A bit more. So the thing that's kind of confusing me, and this is, I know this is a broad question, but I'm having a tough time differentiating connective tissue behavior and muscle orientation. Like I'm always trying to pair these two and I know that they can be kind of separated if that makes sense.

I'm in Delhi, India. It's my first time joining.

Yeah. Okay. Yep, awesome. Thanks, Bill.

No, you don't have to explain anything to them. It's in your interaction with them.

Let me give you a few hints. Okay. Chances are you didn't see the same representation in the upper extremity measures. There was more asymmetry in the upper extremity measures than there were in the. So you saw bilateral hip ER matching.

Yes, of course I do. When you've got the left foot on the wall, cue them to drive the right knee harder. When you've got the right foot on the wall, cue them to drive the right elbow harder. I can remember that. When I say 'and then,' it's a very small adjustment. It's a very small adjustment, but it will prevent [issues]. Sometimes, a lot of it has to do with how you set this thing up to make sure that they're not driving, because they will try to drive late propulsion on the left side when the left foot's on the wall. That's what they're gonna try to do. If I drive the right knee just a little bit harder, even if they're using a compensatory strategy to get there, the compensatory strategy turns them to the left. As long as I capture my left foot cues, as long as I capture the left foot cues, I can't, it'll stop them from orienting.

Oh, yeah. We do that all the time. Okay, yeah, and that would be a way to kind of combine the elastic and the weight releases. The thing that I typically wouldn't recommend is making sure you release the band tension. The way we do that is you wrap it around, like you don't put them inside the loop. You put the loop around them and then you pull it and then you pull them into the cut and then you can release one of it and it swings out of the way and then they can take off.

So then thinking back to Luke's original question regarding clients who have general goals of wanting to look better and feel better, those two are often opposed when it comes to hypertrophy goals, or feeling better in many cases might mean people need more expansion. So, how would you tend to, in your model, since you're mostly seeing people for pain, but maybe thinking of the performance side of clients that come to IFAST to train, how do you weigh those interventions in your process of introducing them and getting them started into programs?

But I think you already understand.

Exactly what it is. That's why you can't walk backwards.

That's great.

So I have force into the ground. You have to remember that I've got force into the ground, right? Yes. But I have a foot position that's also going to create a twist as well. You understand?

Okay, thank you.

Yeah.

So I totally get that. I don't think I understand the nuance of it. So for a wide versus a narrow [inversion-supination-flexion] on the left side and why you go toe heel. Because you're trying to get a little bit of that more middle representation.

It's hard. There are people that can cross over. I mean, Shane Hammond pops into my head because he's the most popular one, right? Was there anybody else, Manuel, that you know came over from powerlifting that did really, really well? Not at that level. Yeah. Okay. Shane was a little bit different. He's a different animal. Like from a physical structure standpoint, it was just to have this interesting body and very explosive for a pile of two. But take somebody like that, typically the physical structure is just not gonna allow them to access an early representation that you would need for what we would consider like this pretty deep squat kind of a thing, right? And some people just have a pelvic structure that does not allow that much shape chain. I mean, you'll get narrow ISA people that don't have strong internal rotation representations. So they'll never, no matter how hard they work in the weight room, they're never going to put on a bunch of muscle. They just can't because they can't produce enough pressure, enough force to make those changes. You got people that are wide that are never going to have this pretty little deep score. What you may find, so you added ER by reducing the, the compressive forces necessary to squat. What's another way to ER that might allow them to access greater descent, but it's probably not going to be Um, uh-huh. There you go. Say it.

Oh yeah.

Yes, okay. Do you see it? Yes. But you have to start high. As I said, it needs to be a fairly easy box to get off of because she probably doesn't have a lot of space, and again, your stagger won't be like that. It will be something like this. Okay. But if you start high enough, she'll be able to push down into the ground on that right side because that's what you're trying to capture, right? You're trying to move her center of gravity back towards her right heel first. Okay. All right, yes, well again, it's whether she has the available space. I'm giving you an option—I'm not saying yes, I'm not saying no. I'm saying that was the thing that popped into my head when you were talking about doing the sync squad. You were trying to create a delay representation, but the delay is in the wrong place. You're trying to create a delay at the sacral base; I'm going to create a delay at the apex. Do you understand the difference?

If I do that, if I do this, which scapula is compressing harder against the thorax?

Absolutely not. Different starting conditions, different perceptions, different structure—like everything about them, other than being human and maybe having similar body parts, right? They got there in different ways. How is it remotely possible that you could do this like I do?

Someone said no, but I would tend to say yes.

So let's make a clarification statement before we walk away from this. You're laying on your right side. You're pushing the left scapula forward, but you've got a delay strategy on the right side on the downside. So I'm compressing less scapula into the thorax to turn into the ground. The expansion is now on the right side posterior. You understand that?

I wanted to ask about what's happening at the rib cage and the scapula during gait from a shape change perspective. I was trying to write out what would be going on if you're looking at the ilium as the scapula and the rib cage as the sacrum, but I'm stuck with middle and late stance representations. Could you go through the gait cycle as far as what's going on at the scapulae and the ribcage?

Yeah, that answers my question because I was going to ask for neuro, I think it's called like approximation and then the PNF scapula where they talk about how you start proximal, then they're able to reach with their arm. And I was going to ask how that applies to your model. How that plays into your model. You just answered that you did it.