You better be slamming into the wall if you're going backwards.

They really won't, but I appreciate it. And where else can I, I mean, other than your videos, I mean, how else can I get, you know, learn more about your model? Because what I love about it, and you just talked to a guy the other day, you were telling him that eventually you want to get to the point, especially people like me who, you know, train people all the time, where you don't have to do the table measurements that you can just look at somebody and say based on where they're not able to act, what motion they're able to access. Yes, that's where I want to be because in my business, people don't want to sit on the table. They do with you, but they don't want me.

Yeah. There you go. So you got it. But if everything's twisted in the external rotation, I still need to produce internal rotation. So what can I do? I'll just twist the bejesus out of the tibia.

Yeah.

What's that? Tell me what's going on. Well, she can't acquire the IR position so she can't propagate the forces to the pelvis.

Like I said, I think your thought process, your initial thought process was on point.

Well, I'm gonna do something different.

Okay, so you reduce gravity, right? Gravity is the same, obviously, but you're taking away an element of what we perceive as the force of gravity. So that avoids the compression that they're gonna move into. So you've reduced that. You've also manipulated center of gravity. Keep that in mind. And that's one of the reasons—like you actually said something that was really brilliant—you said that they have to learn how to control that themselves. Some people won't be able to, because their physical structure will not allow them to change shape enough to access all of those spaces. Now, that doesn't mean that you're doing a bad thing. It just means that when you say that they have to control themselves, they may never be able to do that. If I have a pelvic structure that does not allow me to change shape enough, it'll never happen.

Oh, I don't think there's any question like that. He's I said you just look at his eyes like he's trying to get everything over that way. Cause normally what I'm saying is over to the right.

No, you won't even have to do that. Just stagger her left foot forward, right foot back. Sit her down on the box. The box is easy to get off of, with the hips above knee level. Teach her to push with her right foot. Think about what we just talked about. Take me through the sequence of a right oblique that went on the right oblique first and then went forward. Use your hands, hold your hands up. Why did I say that? There you go. Stop, go backwards one step. That's what I just told you to do.

Yeah, there you go. See, that was a tough conversion for me because I'm an American and we avoid the metric system whenever possible. So what is his shoulder girdle representation going to look like as he's about to perform the final rep of a set where he is taking it to a high level of fatigue?

Okay, both end game. They're both in the same, they are both representing the same position of their center of gravity. Did they get through the same way?

Or whatever implement that allows us to have her be pulled up by a band.

The sensation from the ground up is where you want to focus your attention, not the top side. Because remember, you're weighted into the ground as soon as you weight yourself into the ground and as soon as you lay on your side, you get an anterior posterior expansion capability. You understand that, right?

OK. So to delay the. From a solution standpoint. Yeah. Yeah. Because, again, it's kind of like we were talking about compensatory strategies. If you understand the sequence of events that got you there, then you can reverse engineer the sequence of events to get out of it.

That seems easier.

Yeah, that's true.

Most likely she's turning as you're measuring her.

Posteriorly. Eccentric overcoming. Anteriorly eccentric yielding.

So I could tell you how we do it from a systematic standpoint is that we'll do some of that work beforehand. Sort of like the precursor to the warm up. They'll do their higher force activities. If I'm going to do any high force activities, so anything that's jumping, anything speed related, anything high force comes early in the training session, and then we'll do stuff that might offset or support those activities. And then we encourage people to do a little bit of the movement-based stuff before they walk out the door. For a couple of reasons, number one, it sort of kick starts your recovery processes and number two, it kind of calms you down after the higher intensity stuff. So we just kind of bookend it a little bit. It's usually one of the easier ways to do it. For some, they mean to do some regular homework on a daily basis, like just a little bit of daily movement stuff. So when you think about like a rehab perspective, most of the stuff that I do is learning based. It's just changing strategies and such. And then that requires a regular interval of exposure. So like somebody exercises three times a week at the gym, they may still have to do something on a daily basis to help them to maintain some measure of the relative motions that we're trying to recapture. Does that help you at all?

So make sure you're checking, make sure you have a representation of what her IR is. And I realized that you're not doing it. You're like, you're not measuring it directly, but you can see it.

I think then I'm aware that I have perpetuated a language culture that would make my clients believe that I am there to give them that.

Right. Yeah. So I used to have a patient who was like, you could see the right oblique on her. She had pretty minimal left hip IR. She had like maybe like five degrees left hip IR, 20 degrees left, right hip IR. And if I recall like reasonably symmetrical ER.

And then.

So I was watching the video with you and Manuel. That was really interesting, the one with the bands. Yeah, and I was trying to think of a comment Manuel made about what would be like a way to combine kind of the effects of the elastic and the weight releases. So I was thinking, could you do like a chop with a band that kind of push you into like a cut and then you release the band and then push out of it? Would that be where you would get the acceleration and kind of get that yield into the side that you're cutting into and then be able to come out of that? You're doing a chop, which is which is an unweighting activity or not a chop, but just have a band at a diagonal like behind you just so you get that just to pulling you into it pulling you into it. Correct.

Okay, so what would be your indication of the training effect? What training effect do we want as a result of the activity? That's your first question. And I'm not saying you have to answer it. I'm just saying that's the first question that you have to answer. So every time that you intervene, you want to have an intent. And that intent should be measurable in some way, shape, or form, whether it be your coach's eye or you're going to have some other activity that you're going to make a comparison with, like a before and an after or whatever. You don't just blindly say, 'Oh, we're going to train today.' Right. And that's all fine and wonderful. Sometimes you just want to play and I get it, but in general, when we're intervening, you want to have purpose behind what you're doing. And then you have to be able to identify when you have met that intention.

Inside edge of the foot.

Yeah. It's like you're falling.

Yeah, I understand. That's why this becomes so important is because it does provide you a representation of what's going on or at least a measure of understanding so you can be more accurate with your interventions than rather than random. Now there's always elements, there's always elements of test retest and safe to fail experiments and things like that because you're dealing with a crazy amount of complexity. What we're doing is we're using a model to try to simplify this so we can provide better recommendations. There's always an element of experimentation, but like I said, the understanding of this model that I use helps me cut to the chase much quicker and much more accurate with, again, with all of the interventions that you're going to use regardless of whether we're designing an exercise program or a rehab program or whatever. Again, it all depends on which environment that I'm in. But that's the goal is to, one, simplify this complexity because it is beyond our understanding. We really don't, I mean, there are so many influences that we don't even understand yet. So we have to use heuristics rules of thumb and modeling to make better decisions.

Wow. So there's no particular muscles or muscle groups that would do that, or is that just the forces coming back up through the body?