So like rotating slightly, down, imagine like pump handle down right side. So bar sort of coming down and leaning a shade over to the right.

Yeah, because you know why? Because it would interfere with your foot mobilization, wouldn't it? It's like, okay, as soon as I try to send a signal from the foot, approximately, what's going to kick back to me? Right? Because that's what's going to happen. Like when you're mobilizing a foot, you're creating a transfer of energy into that system, right? And it's going to reflect back to you. So if I'm trying to mobilize a midfoot into pronation and I don't have somebody oriented in the right body position and they're kicking back into eversion at me as I'm trying to mobilize a foot into pronation, good luck with that. And now you know why some of your mobilizations fail because you didn't have the orientation. Right? But they don't tell you that because everything's looking, they're giving you a structural reductionist representation saying, oh, this knee is a separate entity. It does things all by itself. It's like, no, it doesn't. And then they go as far to tell you, in school, I know they told you this in school, because it's a standard rule of PT. It's like, you always go and join above and join below. And you're like, if you got a knee, you got to look at the hip, you got to look at the foot. But then they don't tell you why or how. They just say, it's really important that you look at both. And they go, okay, that's great. But I don't know what that means. What is the big deal? What is the difference that I have to appreciate in the hip if I have a knee that does this? They don't go far enough in the explanation. Right? So they appreciate what it was at regional interdependence. Yeah. I think it is the term that they give you in school. It's like they appreciate the concept, but they don't have any way to explain it to you as to its value. Right?

Oh, okay.

Okay, so here's what you do. You give them a $100 bill. You fold it in half and say, I need you to place this in a very specific area behind you.

Not a lot.

And you, you get a response to say, um, you know, I've seen increases in like, um, tubular translation or if you wanted to call it like a, uh, the old wall slide test. Yeah. Yeah. by that by, you know, applying pressure sort of in pretty close to the belly button somewhere around that region on externally and seeing quite significant, significant increases in range of motion with no, you know, stretching of the other region at all. And, you know, just interest me that you can have these changes in non localized regions. And I expect that the fascia has some application for that, although that's occurring as a result of of that, you know, transfer along that fashion line if you want to call it? Is that like any sense to you?

So the answer here is yes.

Okay. She needs an arch. You're going to have to create some physical structure in the shoe that's going to support the arch. And it's not about arch support. It's about slowing the tibia down. So now we got a mushy shoe with an arch that's going to help to slow down the tibia. Now she's going to be able to actually step over her foot instead of waddle from side to side, like a cook chicken.

If I go like this, so I'm going to draw it across the screen. Do you see the peak in the trough that I'm drawing on the screen? Peak, ER, trough, IR, peak, ER, trough, IR. Now that's two-dimensional. I'm drawing a two-dimensional representation on the screen. We call it coordination. But what we're actually doing is we're coordinating shape change and energy transference. And then the outcome is what we see. Okay. And so anytime, so I was talking about the superimposition of IR on ER, right? I have to create an ER shape. That's what guides the energy because the ER is the expansion. There's no resistance to the energy flow. So the ER is going to make sure that the energy goes in the right direction. The IR is the compression that's pushing the energy in the right direction. They work together.

Directly no.

But as we move towards a greater level of disorder, it could be favorable in certain environments, right? You have to define the environment. And then you have to compare it relative to that.

He just keeps trying to do it.

Correct. So to drop enough internal rotation inside of his base of support, he's got to keep the knee bent outward, right?

So when we're developing strength, we're literally just levering the humeral head off of a fluid pouch in the joint.

You see how we're again, we're just writing programs now. Do you see the difference? It's like, okay, so we use the boxes to limit the excursion, perfect. We are protecting the knee, right? We're teaching him to start to produce force, but we're also encouraging the delay strategy at the same time. You see how cool that is?

Okay. Does anybody want to dive in here and think in the same way that I am that you would use to confirm a hip orientation? What would you use? Does anybody know? So who said it? Shoulder? Yes. Shoulder on the same side. Okay, so here's what she told you literally in her explanation: she said every time I try to move my arm through space as I elevate it, I run out of space and I hit this spot every time, unless I deviate away from midline and orient farther into external rotation, and then I'm fine. That's what she said about her shoulder, right? And then she said, by the way, just to confirm that I have to move away from midline, when I go right leg forward on my split jerk, it doesn't hurt as bad either. So she said the hip and the shoulder are doing the same thing.

So this relates to my first question. And I just wanted to ask, so if the ribcage is falling forward and he has an elevated ribcage and you were looking from top down and drew like a, let's say a frontal plane line through the body. And then you looked at the thoracic outlet and- A what? Just like a line to have the body in the- Okay, I like that better. Thank you. I'm sorry about that.

Well, where's the interorientation?

Right. And then I would imagine like, we got to get him back.

Okay. She's not waiting. But think about this. So she descends a little bit faster than her guts, right? And then the guts hit the bottom and then she kind of double clutches. So she descends and then she descends again because when the guts hit, they're pushing her down even farther. So the box squat then becomes incredibly valuable here. And literally the discussion that we had with Andrew becomes your strategy. It's like, oh, okay. So I have somebody that as she descends, she can descend quickly, but she's still not capable of turning the eccentric to concentric fast enough. And so the guts hit, she has to yield again, right? You see it? And so what you want to do then is you say, well, where do we optimize this position? That tells you where to set your box. And then you say, can you execute a controlled touching go? Start to load that so you get concentric orientation, and then you transition this to a D load onto the box and the pop up. So now she knows to stop and then come up quickly. And then you slowly take the box away. So the way you take the box away is you take a pad, you take a mushy pad, you put it in the box. So she still has a sensation of depth. Right. But now she has to do the controlling of the turnaround. And then you eventually take that away and she does the vertical jump. You see, you say just progressively take away the constraint.

Grace had an epiphany on Monday at the gym in regards to muscle protractions. So I'm picking on her a little bit. Whoa, somebody needs a mute there. You're offering up a very vague representation of something that's not very helpful. Let me grab my anatomy book, okay? And then I'm going to grab it, I'm going to go to the section on the core. And then let me catch up to you because I'm not really sure what that is. So step one, we have an ill-defined representation, right? And then we have this vague notion of strength, which is a comparative measure, right? I can tell when somebody is stronger as long as I'm talking about the same thing. So we don't really have anything useful in that statement. And I'm not picking on you, I'm just picking on the profession, right? So what is the intention when you're doing an activity like that? If it's something that's vague and ill-defined, I don't see how that can be helpful because I need a process that allows me to make an effective decision under specific circumstances. So there has to be something that leads me in the direction that's what I need to do, versus some vague notion of 'oh, you just need to get stronger,' which doesn't help me. So it's not that those activities don't have utility. It's just that the reasoning behind their application is ill-defined. Why would I want to do that? Okay. If you've got someone doing a side plank, Zach, what are you trying to do on the downside support? What do you think you're driving home there on that side?

This is one of these dirty little things that the table makes a great constraint. But you got to understand how you're moving on the table when it happens. Because again, when you have all these asymmetrical measures and you see these, this one measure where both sides look exactly the same, they're not the same. I am very fond of using the term dirty measures. And when I say dirty, it's what you think you're measuring, you're not measuring. So the structural reductionist model would say that if you're doing hip range motion testing, you're testing hip range motion. And I would argue that you're testing internal and external rotation. What we need to understand though is how that is represented and then what is possible as far as creating these measures using the table as the constraint. So that's the value of the table that you need to understand it. It is a constraint to measure against. But we went through some stuff without. We did a little demo which hopefully is going to be helpful for you as well so you can actually see some of these representations in standing that you might see actually with somebody laying on the table for comparison purposes. So again, hope it's useful.

So let's take that last part of your statement out. It's right. And then I'm beginning to yield. That's where I'm starting to yield, but it's not facing straight up. It's still to the right, isn't it?

Okay, saved by the finger quotes. But this is just representative of me trying to put force into the ground. So that means I'm internally rotating. So I'm trying to internally rotate here. And so what you're going to get is the twist here in that distal femur that's going to change the knee representation. So that's where you're going to start to see. So this is the medial condyle. That's my downforce into the ground, right? That's gonna push down and in. So that's the inward turn of the femur. It's here, right?

Okay. So now because you've got those skills available to you, you know when to implement them. So he needs help to feel what it's like to let that go. If you can't execute it with an activity, such as really slow, gentle, lazy kind of rolling activities to teach him to tune down the concentric orientation himself, now you have to break out your toolbox. You say, 'Okay, I'm going to lay hands on this guy.' And you say, 'He's got a posterior lower compressor strategy that's interfering.' Guess where you have to put your hands? That's where you have to go. So you're going to give him the sensation that he cannot create himself. Maybe it's rib mobilizations. Maybe you're going to apply pressures and tensions to connective tissue and contractile tissue to teach him to release that concentric orientation. This is how you know when to use those tools: first and foremost, I always give people an opportunity to try to do things themselves because that works a whole lot better, but sometimes they can't.

Yep. So in addition to just the drop and catch versus the continuous squat, differentiation of those two. Yeah. There's another big reason you just get more yielding capacity because you can't do the other one with as much weight.

Have a great day. Happy Thursday. I have narrow coffee in hand and it is perfect as usual.

We have another segment on training rotational athletes. Good morning. Happy Friday. I have neuro coffee in hand and it is perfect. All right, another great week. Looking forward to a great weekend. If you're on the two-week sprint system, like I am, this is the slow weekend where we do all of our catch-up work. So I'm kind of looking forward to that, actually. We're going to finish up the week with the Q&A segment. I'm going to do another piece from the Quarterback Docs podcast. If you were watching last Friday, we did a little segment from there. I talked to these guys and had a blast talking to them. And so we ended up talking for about two and a half hours or so, so we got a lot of stuff covered. But it's another segment in regards to some of the issues that we talk about when we're training these athletes that need to be able to train like golfers, tennis players, throwers of any kind. Of course, Drew and Dusty work with a lot of quarterbacks, a lot of throwers in general. And so this will be hopefully again a useful segment for you to lead into the weekend. If you have any questions, please go to askbillhartmanageemail.com and leave your question there. If you'd like to participate in a 15-minute consult and get your face up here on Instagram and YouTube, please send that to askbillhartmanageemail.com as well. Put '15-minute consult' in the subject line so I do not accidentally delete your email. Everybody have an outstanding weekend and we will see you next week. All quarterbacks have physical tools. All of them have intellectual tools, and there's this mix of who they become. Some people can compensate for the lack of cognition with something physical, and some people are much more cognitive than they compensate for the other. And so again, you always see these mixes. You just kind of find out who this kid is and then say we're going to emphasize this—this is your strength. We're going to work on this other stuff, but this is going to be your strength.

There is no backwards. How many sensory organs do you have that face backwards? None. Which way do your feet point? Forward. If you were supposed to go backwards, wouldn't it be smart to have like maybe an eye in the back of your head, like your backup camera in your car? Wouldn't it be reasonable that my feet should turn all the way around and face the other way so I can go in that direction? You follow me so far. I'm not done with my story. Follow me so far. Okay. Stand up and be our representation, please.

So now straight ahead is really out to the side.