I also just want to ask a quick thing. Is it also possible when you put someone in a position that they undertuck their pelvis too much?

Number one, if you achieve the desired outcome, then you were successful. I mean, that's clear. So if it works well, then I like it. The issues you might encounter, especially with a narrow ISA individual, is if they have a lot of proximal posterior tension and you place something between their knees, they can still externally rotate. These would be your so-called butt squeezers. You can stand behind them and see that it's not going to go well. How can you tell just from that? As they concentrically posteriorly orient the lower pelvis, when you put something between someone's knees, if they can produce internal rotation from distal to proximal, that indicates an early representation of internal rotation. If they can create that internal rotation, you will be successful. If they can't, then they only compress more. These would be the people who compensate more through lumbar spine extension rather than trying to get a sacrum that can actually move towards nutation.

Okay.

Yeah, I know I've just seen some interesting changes in things like ranges of motion by, you know, if you want to call it trigger point or whatever you want to call it, you know, pressure point in one particular part of what, you know, Thomas Myers kind of book on anatomy trains and fascial lines and all that sort of gear. And you, you get a response to say, um, you know, I've seen increases in like, um, tubular translation or if you wanted to call it like a, uh, the old need a wall test. Yeah. Yeah. By that by, you know, applying pressure sort of in pretty close to the belly button somewhere around that region externally and seeing quite significant, significant increases in range of motion with no, you know, stretching of the other region at all. And, you know, just interest me that you can have these changes in non localized regions. And I expect that the fascia has some application for that, although that's occurring as a result of of that, you know, transfer along that fashion line if you want to call it? Is that like any sense to you?

Compared to the original? No.

Zach, I saw you. I saw you do it, Zach. Okay. She needs an arch. You're going to have to create some physical structure in the shoe that's going to support the arch. And it's not about arch support. It's about slowing the tibia down. So now we got a mushy shoe with an arch that's going to help to slow down the tibia. Now she's going to be able to actually step over her foot instead of waddle from side to side, like a cook chicken.

That's exactly right.

Oh, you mean the major?

Disorder is growing, right? But because our lens is only here, it doesn't appear to be that case.

Right, yeah. Just to clarify, when I don't know if it was like the neuro symptoms or if it was a neurological issue, but how do I distinguish in that scenario going after recapturing positions so that he's able to physically capture ER that finger opposition versus it's a result of the left occluded artery? Or do I go after recapturing the position regardless?

He would sprain his ankle, right? Yes. So he's literally preventing the normal relative motions. So do you think he has normal relative motion at the knee?

Because there's more of an ability of the tendon to pull on the capsule and shift fluid volume.

OK. So we're working with one of Ian's soccer players. And we're trying to capture an early representation. OK. and doesn't have full and range knee bend yet, but we're gonna start to do a little bit of power work with a barbell, okay? And so I'm gonna send him to you and I'm gonna say, hey, let's avoid any of the deep knee bending stuff, but he can bend his knee like say easily 45 degrees and we can start to work on some patterning of explosive work, okay? But again, I want an early representation. Are you going to give him a snatch from the boxes so we can limit the range of motion? Like a power snatch from the box, or are you going to give him a power clean from a box?

I'm not saying which measure it is. I just want to know what you're using as a confirmation for your hip measures to make sure that your thought process is useful.

Thank you, Bill. I really appreciate it.

Yes. That's correct. It's straightforward.

So, Andrea orientation first, get him out of that.

Okay, so I have somebody that as she descends, she can descend quickly, but she's still not capable of turning the eccentric to concentric fast enough. Good morning. Happy Friday. I have neuro-coffee in hand and it is perfect. All right, well, I'm kind of fired up. Noon Eastern today, IFesh University members only. Mike Robertson and I will be on the same call. This is a bonus call for you guys that we've been thinking about for a while. And so please join us if you haven't signed up for IFesh University. Go to IFeshUniversity.com so you can join us at 12 noon today. Okay, diving in today's Q&A. This is two segments from yesterday's Coffee and Coaches conference call. We had a similar situation show up in two different contexts. And it was recording the public outlet behavior. One of the things that we have to think about when we're talking about vertical jumps or when we talk about transitions in the Olympic lifts where we have sort of the unweighting element or the counter movement in a vertical jump, the outlet behavior becomes very, very important to the ability to transition from an eccentric to a concentric pelvic outlet. The ability to store and release energy via using overcoming actions is also very important. And so we'll see deficits in those behaviors. And so we went through two different strategies that we talked about for these two different contexts. So one was using a box squat and one was using an oscillatory variation of a squat to try to resolve these things. So again, very useful Q&A for a lot of people, a lot of coaches. If you would like to participate in a Q&A 15-minute consultation, please go to askbillharman at gmail.com. You can get signed up there. Put 15-minute consultation in the subject line, so I do not delete it. We will arrange that at our mutual convenience. I got a bunch of those to schedule in a backlog, so please be patient with those. Everybody have an outstanding Friday. Have a great weekend, and I'll see you on Monday.

Okay, what's an isometric, Grace?

This is one of these dirty little things that the table makes a great constraint. But you got to understand how you're moving on the table when it happens. Because again, when you have all these asymmetrical measures and you see these, this one measure where both sides look exactly the same, they're not the same. Good morning. Happy Friday. I have neuro coffee in hand and it is perfect. All right. And it's been a great week. Flew by. It was very, very busy this week. Kind of busy weekend coming up. Looking forward to that. So let's dig into today's Q&A, which is another segment from yesterday's Coffee and Coaches Conference call. This is with Alex. And Alex had a great question that referred to how we need to look at our table tests. And I'm very fond of using the term dirty measures. And when I say dirty, It's what you think you're measuring, you're not measuring. So the structural reductionist model would say that if you're doing hip range motion testing, you're testing hip range motion. And I would argue that you're testing internal and external rotation. What we need to understand though is how that is represented and then what is possible as far as creating these measures using the table as the constraint. So that's the value of the table that you need to understand it. It is a constraint to measure against. But we went through some stuff without. We did a little demo which hopefully is going to be helpful for you as well so you can actually see some of these representations in standing that you might see actually with somebody laying on the table for comparison purposes. So again, hope it's useful. If you would like to participate in a 15 minute consultation, Please go to askbillhartman.com, askbillhartman.com, put 15 minute consultation in the subject line so I don't delete it. We'll arrange that at our mutual convenience. I think that's gonna be it for today. The podcast will be up on Sunday as usual. Don't forget to go to the YouTube channel and subscribe so you can get access to all of the past videos that go way back and have a terrific weekend and I will see you next week.

This is the moment, the first metatarsal head and the heel are on the ground together. So it's the very beginning of early propulsion. What direction is the sacrum facing?

So I think your question pertains to where the center of gravity is. So I'm standing on two sticks and let's just fix them to the ground. We're going to move the pelvis around the two sticks. If I'm anteriorly oriented, I can end up in that initial representation you were describing. This is me putting force into the ground. You used the dirty V word, right? You said valgus. But I'm saved by the finger quotes. This is just representative of me trying to put force into the ground. That means I'm internally rotating here. What you're going to get is the twist in the distal femur that's going to change the knee representation. That's where you're going to start to see. This is the medial condyle. That's my downforce into the ground, which is going to push down and in. That's the inward turn of the femur, right here.

Okay. And then would there be any methods that you have acquired in your toolbox that allow you to lay your hands upon someone and make a change of concentric to eccentric orientation?

So great to talk to you. Say hi to all my friends in Vancouver because I have people out there. Nice. It's a byproduct of being really old. Okay, you have a great day, man. I'll see you. Thank you.

The 89.7. Yeah.

It will be posted and you will be famous.

Where do you want the motion to occur? And where do I not want it to occur? Right. One is more restrictive than the other one's going to allow relative motion within the pelvis. Okay.

No, no. You can't go backwards. You cannot go backwards.

The reason you would initially have the external rotation on the left is because you've just changed where that external rotation space is relative to the orientation of the pelvis.

Yep.