That?

OK, so I orient the whole pelvis.

Right. Cool. Yeah, that was very cool.

Okay. So you would rather do the carry on the right where it looks good until she has enough force.

Absolutely. Something that unweights them, right? It gives them an opportunity to create the internal pressure that they need to manage the downward forces. So you have to train that concept first or modify the exercise to reduce those forces so they don't have to use the compensatory strategy. I have no idea what the solution would be. That's your job.

So my vastus lateralis is actually staying in an eccentric orientation when I need to be concentrically oriented to create the stiffness that I need. And now I pull unevenly on a patellar tendon. You see the interplay?

So if the knee is not bending as much, okay. You still have access to the knee orientation. You're still influencing the knee orientation, but where would you be putting greater emphasis?

Right. So I guess, maybe there's a lot to this question. I'm hoping this is a simple question, but if somebody's in the top of a split squat, there's going to be some obvious tells that they're working too hard. They might not be able to breathe properly, and you'll see their legs squeezing like crazy. If that's their orientation and they're trying to really work hard in that top position, how might you test to see maybe this is just the fact that they're trying to work too hard by queuing them in a certain way or by giving them a specific cue?

Yeah, go ahead.

Okay. Why do you put your hands in your pockets when you walk? to not say it, Grace. Say it, Grace. Say it, Grace. Go.

No. The shoulder part was easy. That was the E part. Oh, man. Shoulder part was easy. What other measures do you want to think about here, boss?

Yeah.

Yeah, it just doesn't actually pan out from a magnitude standpoint. All right, and then strength training.

Cause you had a big giant head, right? That was one third of your body mass and you had this tiny little body and you were stuck to the ground because you couldn't change shape. And then you started kicking around and you started experimenting and you go, hey, this big giant head, I can use this to my advantage. If I can get it swinging in the right direction, I can actually roll. And then you started to turn and then you started to coordinate things. It's the same process for them. They have new constraints. They don't know how to control them. Put them in the most complex atmosphere up on two feet. It's a circus act, right? How many animals on earth walk on two legs as well as humans? None, except for one ape. One giant gorilla can walk on two legs like a human being. It scares me to death every time I watch that video. Okay, so you treat them the same way. You say, okay, I know what positions I need for force production. Let's get you there first. How can I make you successful? I'm going to put you in the position that allows you to be most successful. Then I'm going to drive the positions that produce the internal rotation, the force production. Then I'm going to slowly expand that excursion so you can step into an early representation. You can push through a middle and then push off the late. You see it? You create the atmosphere. You put them in the positions to be successful. There is no difference. There is no difference. It's just a matter of understanding the constraints. That's why you do your evaluation. You say, what do we have available to us right now to work with?

OK, cool.

Assuming that moment of time that stops where you have maximum internal rotation, and assuming that is extremely high force and the shortest possible time. So if we looked at a sprinter's foot contact, that is maximum force into the ground. At world class levels, I think it's 0.08 to 0.11 seconds on the ground, which is incredibly brief. But they're applying a maximum force that allows them to leave the ground again and cover a great deal of distance. So we would think about the same thing when we're talking about force production in a punch. I want this ability to expand, compress and then re-expand as quick as possible with the highest force possible.

It would be poor. You wouldn't have a lot of hip external rotation. You would have a lot of hip external rotation, but you get a lot of compensation. Yeah, there you go. Thank you. A lot of ER. A lot of ER, no IR.

Yeah, OK. So the seven components of force, it's just like, if I were to observe somebody doing an activity over a certain period of time, it's like, I would meet, if I really want a representation of what's going on, I need to have all of those just in my head. Like, not necessarily like mulling over them like crazy, but like, if I wanted to just write it all down, it's like, you just have to think about each and every one of those. And then variability isn't really, it's like, it seems like it's largely like an interplay of a lot of the factors because of a lot of the other six components.

Okay. So rather than thinking like, 'Oh, I have six months,' granted, you do have six months. We want to think we always want to have that in the background, but let's just say I got two weeks to make the change.

And they've done that.

And they think that that's the match. The match is the muscle behavior. Concentric and eccentric is the match.

That's why you get the Hawkins Kennedy test. Is that the Hawkins Kennedy test? This is the Hawkins Kennedy test. That's why you get a positive Hawkins Kennedy test is due to the posterior lower compressive strategies. Frederick, how's the French press this morning or this afternoon?

ER space.

Great. So speaking of volleyball players, I was talking with one of the girls I'm coaching and she has always struggled with quote, valgus. No one's been able to like diagnose it. Under max load, she dumps internally everywhere at the knee and the foot. And this has been expressed in frustration from her because when she's lifting, she can't squat low. She can't go up in numbers and everyone's just like, well, we don't really know why. Just keep doing your best. And so she was just expressing great frustration. And so I did some tests with her last night and my thought is obviously she's trying to get IR from everywhere else where she's lacking it. I think she is narrow. She looked a bit asymmetrical, but there's probably some bias in my testing over zoom. And she was very much either straight on or slightly pylon. And so I've been wondering, I've been trying to piece it together of like, okay, so what does this mean? What else do I kind of need to either figure out or test so I can actually figure out what's happening.

So yeah, I don't know if this will take too terribly long. Is it useful to, based on the complexities, at least learn about as many of the influencing factors so you can account for them? So at least you know, 'Hey, this is possibly why my intervention did or did not work.' And again, you don't come to a definitive answer, but at least you kind of appreciate those things, right.

Yes.

Yeah.

And you just have to describe your point of reference to make it clear.

It is right in front of our face and that's the thing that has not been recognized. We work with the things as being different instead of saying, okay, so you've heard of First Principles reasoning as many people have by now because again it was sort of repopularized if that's even possible. It's like you listen to Elon Musk and says, oh, I just use first principles reasoning. And everybody says, oh, Elon Musk came up with this idea. It's like, well, Uncle Aristotle was talking about that long before, you know, we even existed when he was talking about first principles reasoning. So there are absolute principles upon which we have to behave because they are part of the universe. We are part of the universe, which sounds like this deep and kind of esoteric thought process. But the reality is like, we just have to follow the rules. And so the concept of a gradient exists because that's how movement is produced on all scales. There has to be a change to allow change to occur. If there's no change, then it's static, nothing happens, right? And so, okay, so now the question becomes, it's like, okay, so how do things move in the universe? Well, they get bigger, they get smaller. So that's compression expansion. And so if that's the principle, if that's the rule, then all we have to do is say, well, how do humans do it? And what they did is they used the model that they had to establish a thought process, which is actually useful. And they said, well, let's look at dead guys because we can't cut the live people open because that would be bad, right? So they started looking at dead guys and say, oh, look, we pull on these things and we got levers and pulleys. And so dead guys do have levers and pulleys, but humans don't. And that's a tough leap for a lot of people because they just make this direct association. But all you got to do is look at one dry cadaver and then you look at a fresh cadaver dissection and you see two different representations right away. And so I had the benefit of that. A few years ago, I did a series of fresh cadaver dissections. And actually some of my students actually got to participate in some of those. So they actually got to see it happening as well. And that was incredibly enlightening as to how we do some of this stuff. And so now we start saying, well, OK, wait a minute, this is a fluid model. All right. So this makes more sense that what we're actually doing is we're changing shape. And it's like, OK, well, how do humans compress and expand? And we could start with something compartmentalized like a fascial compartment or something like that that gives us a little bit of a closer dose of reality.

If I don't have that capacity at the bottom, now I have to use a compensatory strategy, which means I'm going to see somebody orient their pelvis, or I'm going to see a wicked side bend, or I'm going to see a lousy into and out of the cut. They're going to have to like stand up to distribute the force, right? Or you'll see somebody that does one of those kind of deals where they go in and out of the cut, you know what I'm talking about? They look kind of like loosey-goosey coming in and out. Yeah. Does that help you?