Okay, so now we're talking about the strength of a stimulus. How much heel elevation do you need to create the response farther up the system? Is there another way to promote a position farther up in the thorax? Because you're right, it may not be enough to just place the foot on an inclined platform to get the thorax to move backwards. Again, the way we see this stuff is by looking at the initial representation with ground contact. It's really easy to see it relative to the foot. But what about the sacrum? What about moving that thorax back? So what is the representation that you have in mind when you're looking at the upper thorax? You don't have to describe it, I'm just throwing it out there. How could you capture that? Like where do I need to put, what do I need to put the extremity to allow the yielding action to take place in the upper thorax? Sometimes you put people on the incline board and they do it automatically. Sometimes they don't. So some of this is gonna be your coach's eye as a representation of what you want to see. Typically you want to see that expansion in the dorsal rostral. You want to make sure that the scaps are not elevating as they move through whatever activity you're doing on the incline board. So how can you assure that you get the thorax position? You have to say, okay, where am I gonna put these upper extremities? And you were using like a goblet?

Okay. Can we have time?

Yeah.

Yes. Yes.

Yes, very cool. Does that help you? Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much. Excellent, excellent. You have three minutes and 41 seconds.

Question about the right oblique orientation and ER measures. So correct me if I'm wrong here, but when we get the right oblique, the left lower posterior starts to approximate sacrum and ilium and it drives it up and over.

Okay, so in most static circumstances where we're looking at people either in a static position, slow motion or passive range of motion and such, it would be very rare to see a left oblique orientation. It does happen in performance. In fact, we want it to happen in performance because that is actually one of those limiters to performance. So if we look at all the weightlifting videos and pictures that you post on IFAST University, all of those are going to be in the static symmetrical positions in most cases unless you're showing me like a split jerk or something like that. And so it's really easy to see these orientations in space. When we're talking about a dynamic athlete that has to change direction, so for me to go into, like I say, a left side cut, so as I go into a cut and come out of a cut, I'm going to use that left oblique orientation into the cut and then I'm going to reverse it out of the cut. But because of the internal forces that I'm always managing, there is a bias to the rotation that occurs inside. And so the right oblique would show up under these, like I said, slow speeds, kind of static-y kind of representations. So if I can acquire a left oblique position, I'm throwing a party because then I know I've got somebody that's got the normal representation against the internal forces and then they can manage those internal forces where they would get magnified, and this is what people typically protect themselves against. So when you're watching an Olympic weightlifter and they start, when they go down into their catch or their deep squat, and you see that pelvis kind of shift forward in one direction, the one knee sticks out farther, the shin angle is steeper on one side than it is on the other, they're actually using that strategy to control internal forces and then the magnified external forces. If you can get somebody, and think about this for a second, think about how many people you have that use a right leg forward lead on their split jerk. It's pretty rare. It's probably more common to see a left leg forward on the jerk because it's easier for them to manage that position than it is in the alternative. So if you ever get a right leg lead forward, that's probably somebody that's got a pretty decent amount of control in regards to the internal force management and then the weight overhead. And that's probably a decent Olympic weightlifter because then they can do a lot of this bilateral symmetrical stuff a little bit more effectively than a lot of people can.

Right.

I hope I'm willing. Well, we'll find out. My priorities might change eventually and that's okay.

Yes.

Of course not. It doesn't mean that you can't do something, but it's going to feel a little wonky. You're going to feel a little uncoordinated. It'll sound kind of uneven and that kind of thing. Same deal. It's like some people need to practice this more because they picked the wrong parents to give them the best possible control. So they got to do it more. Some people don't need to do any. Right. And then everybody else kind of falls in between. But you always have to practice.

So I'm going to follow up on the girl that Ian followed up on that I asked about the shin splints term compartments. Just a quick side note. You were correct. She did have an ER foot in non-weight-bearing. Like usual. Anyway, she has done really well on the table so far. Like again, just one of those tall, very slender girls. They just got her motion back very easily. She's going to flop on the table with very minimal input. Once we had an early representation last visit, I stood her up and then did the activity. It was like one foot on a box, one foot straight underneath her, chopping down, just to try to reteach underneath her and build out a little bit like middle. Her immediate strategy was very similar to her initial standing posture where she hyperextended the knee and then rested on the front of her hips.

Awesome, okay. So staggered stance. Inside of available space, which if you're at this point in the process, you're probably okay. You've probably got a pretty decent amount of space to play with. Yeah. So you're just going to go right foot forward stagger. Okay. All right. And then how do I make a turn from right to left? Like what has to happen?

Okay, so just to clarify, you're stepping sideways and you want to ramp to lift the pinky toe side of the foot up?

Okay, yeah.

So I understand conceptually how pushing them towards late on the right side with the heel lift would punch them down. Can you just visually walk me through it a tiny bit? Do I have a better mental image?

I need to get one. I don't currently have one.

It's a technical term for those of you that don't understand. It's the funny spot. It is absolute. So think about this: There has to be a place that absorbs the energy. There has to be a place that it's released. The shapes determine what direction everything goes. That's always been the goal: to make sure I get the shapes right so that the energy goes in the right direction. It goes to the right places where I can distribute it, utilize it, and then redirect it. I'm still going to do that under almost every circumstance. The unfortunate thing is I might be having to lock certain segments together, which is my loss of relative motion. So now I have a substitution for that relative motion, which means that something else has to move that may be less than ideal. So let's just say that I take five segments of the lumbar spine and I jam them together with an orientation and then they start to behave as one. Instead of having relative motion between the segments, they bend. If you look at an x-ray and you see a lordosis, sometimes that lordosis looks like different bones and disks and all the stuff that surrounds it. Sometimes those are all moving together.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Yeah, I gotcha.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's internal rotation. Yes, it's internal rotation. So when the center of gravity moves forward, you have more anterior compression as the center of gravity moves forward, you will lose internal rotation as the center of gravity moves forward. Okay. Yes. So when you move them back, you recapture the internal rotation on the right hip. When you, as you recapture that, that's when you can start to turn. Because if you try to turn before that, all you do is create an orientation where they're just going to stay in that direction. Okay. So you bring them back on the right, more internal rotation, then make the turn.

So there's a limit. There's a limit to how far they can move in that direction, right? And so an exercise to select that would allow them to access the greatest degree of eccentric orientation and the greatest degree of internal rotation would be a better choice than trying to force them into a standardized representation of an exercise because somebody said somewhere that everybody has to be able to do that. So your thought process is outstanding, okay? Because what you're doing is you're immediately putting them into a space where they do have access to be able to superimpose the internal rotation in that activity. Yeah, okay. Because if I bring them too close together, right? And again, we're talking about world's greatest narrow. If I bring these feet too close together, that space doesn't exist for them, okay? Especially in a loaded situation. The minute I start adding load, I have just taken away more and more and more space. So the orientation of say a sumo deadlift becomes a better choice. Now you have a second problem. Their starting position probably not too bad. Then it becomes how far down can they go in that position? And so that becomes the big question. So you think about where they have internal rotation, okay? So it's away from midline and then they can, like if these are feet, right? Move the feet away from midline and then push the feet into the ground. There's where they've got some internal rotation, okay? As they descend, there will be a point where they can no longer descend, continue to eccentrically orient the posterior chain, and that's where the movement should stop. And then that's you as the coach going, that's about as far as you're gonna go. And so then this might be a rack pull or an elevated position for some people. There will be the exceptional few that might be able to get all the way to the floor. But the standard measure from the floor is the radius of a 20 kilogram plate. And that doesn't fit everyone, right? I would hazard to guess that if Dale and I go into the gym, I'm a little closer to the floor.

So we'd be talking like an Arnold curl, I guess.

Okay.

The right sacral base is getting pushed forward.

Yeah, no. It wasn't just my power lifter. I was Mr. Texas, heavyweight and overall.

Yes.

All right. So I think I got a relatively quick one. I was thinking about chops, like for the purpose of unweighting, to help acquire a position. I guess I'm getting a little mixed up in my head. So I guess like the way I'm seeing it, like I understand that as I pull down with the cable car, whatever I'm using, that's naturally going to unweight me. But I feel like I still need to be able to acquire the position in like an unweighted context for it to be useful. So I'm trying to figure out like exactly what is the purpose of the unweighting if I can acquire it in a non-unweighted position.