Yeah.

This would be like, these are your narrow people that have to move their legs really far apart to squat. Because they got smushed from the front first, they got smushed from the back second.

Yeah. Have you ever done a split squat with a 225 pound barbell on your shoulders? Try that and then do a body weight split squat.

Right. It's just understanding the representation. So they're going to use a compensatory inhale. Their bias is to be exhaled. That means they have to use a compensatory strategy to breathe in. When they breathe in because of the shape of the thorax, the position of the diaphragm, the expansion is greater posteriorly in the thorax and in the pelvis, which would knock them backwards. That's why they have to get pushed forward. We're back to Ivan's question from the very beginning.

Well, her parents have a ranch-type place. I don't know how you would call it. Does she compete? No. Okay. Daily, she's sitting on a horse because it's her passion.

I'm trying to think where he's getting it. Is he just arching back as I'm doing it?

So maybe it depends on how far forward you're pushed here, but yes, you got the right idea. You want an early representation of ER. You don't want the late representation of ER.

With respect to losing position in terms of just being pushed into extension, right? And the need to avoid that. And what you said, that's not, you know, you said that's definitely not core. That's something else. What is this something else? What is it that?

Yeah, you can do that. Unless you got like a, again, if they're up in their dynamic, it's like you might have another representation. So think about this. If you get a concentric pelvic diaphragm more effectively than you did prior to, what would happen to your split squat?

Yeah, yeah. No, that makes sense.

Yes.

Okay, but that would be kind of what I'm talking about is that it's like the reason I would have them exhale into that sticking point is because that's the natural force producing position. I want to coordinate the internal pressure mechanics to match the sequence of the exercise. So I don't want to alter the coordination. Okay, that would naturally occur. I'm just going to make sure that I would move them into the position that where they would expand produce ER and then produce the expansion there versus trying to move into it. Okay.

Okay.

I understand I'm not picking in here, brother, okay? The biggest challenge that you have is not wanting, I mean, I know you want to know the answer, but what it is, it's getting comfortable with the unpredictability and the uncertainty is where the issue lies, because if you can do that and you just understand that this is process, and always be forthcoming and honest with your patient or client and just say that we're gonna do this and then we're gonna test and we're gonna see what the answer is because you're not like everybody else. We have to treat you like you. Even though they are human and they have certain constraints and such, we can't compare them to average and we have to compare them to themselves.

Okay, so if the foot's too high on the wall, guess what you did? You oriented the pelvis.

Well, he has to compensate. So here's the description that you just gave me. If you were going to try to put some force behind to throw, so you're just standing out on the field. And I know you've done this like a gazillion times, every time you want to put some air under the ball, right? So you sort of walk into it, right? So you step forward with your right foot, then your left foot, and then you throw, right? Not like when you're in a pocket and you've already planted your foot. You sort of step into it. Well, why do you step into it? It's because you're landing in an early propulsive representation on the right foot. You move through middle. You go to the max. You step into the other side. And now you've stepped into this with a tremendous amount of stored momentum. Now you do the exact same thing on the left foot. And now you can translate that momentum into the ball. And then that's demonstrated as velocity.

What do you mean?

Yes. Yes, I'm still here. All right.

Yeah, that makes total sense. And have there been times where someone asked you a question and you're totally stumbling over your words, you don't know what to say? And that can definitely be eye-opening. But maybe I'd like to hear about the last time that happened, or just any time that happened, and what your process was from that point.

Right, yeah. And then that's going to, again, open up the or increase the gradient on their excursion.

And so we have to have some form of key performance indicator that is going to allow us to determine whether we're on the right path or not. So if I'm trying to improve someone's acceleration, so let's say that I'm measuring their acceleration through a 10 meter sprint from a standing start, I take them into the gym, I train them, I bring them back, and I retest that 10 meter sprint. And if that continues to improve, then my strategy in the weight room is good. And so if I'm using bilateral symmetrical activities to do that, great. But at some point in time, and maybe it happens and maybe it doesn't, at some point in time, it can become interference. The only way that you can tell whether this is going to happen is as you train them. And again, this is why we monitor key performance. Friday. So this comes from Jason and Jason says, it's common sentiment that we hear in the industry that a certain muscle is tight because it's weak, particularly in reference to hamstrings, hip flexors, and shoulder extra rotators. How does this concept fit within the orientations and strategies of your model? Well, let's talk a little bit about the concept that you're asking about first and foremost and let's kind of figure out where that sort of comes from. And I think it's based on what would be the typical structural reductionist model where people are taking physical properties in the world around us and then trying to apply them to humans. For instance, if you pull on a rope or stretch a leather belt or a rubber band, you feel the tension. And if your model of the world is based on these physical properties and you apply them to humans, then my perceptions are going to follow. And so it's like we compare muscles to tension in rubber bands, even though that's not remotely true. That might be where this kind of thing comes from. Nuts and muscles is another one that stands out in my mind. Muscles don't actually have nuts in them. They might have contracted areas that become sensitive, but somebody called them nuts at some point in time. It caught on. It's great metaphor. It's very useful for a descriptor to describe a sensation. It's just not much of reality. Doesn't mean we don't feel tension in tissues. So under circumstances of yielding actions, we certainly do feel that because load is always distributed into the connector tissues and that's a lot of what we perceive based on my model. So whether we have a concentric or an muscle or an eccentrically oriented muscle, and we get to some end of excursion that is allowed under those circumstances and we do have the yielding action. That's definitely what we're going to feel.

Right, but that's where the apprenticeship model becomes so important and especially for what we do because there is so much that is experiential. When you're in the gym, everything that we've talked about in this call is about the influence of how experience helps us just determine what the interventions are, identify what we're looking at, and what the best choices may be based on the probabilities that we have. Those probabilities come with experience. If I just got my 30-day certification that somehow qualifies me to work with people, where do you get those representations? You get them from people that have more experience because what they're going to be able to do is share their experience with you through reality, like literally working with people. That's why we do the internships at IFAS. It becomes so important because people need the actual experience of doing these things versus just sitting in the purple room and drawing on the whiteboard and saying this is how it is. That's useful information, but until you go out and you actually do it and try to influence those changes and try to identify what you're looking at, you're a bit lost. Again, how you communicate it is going to be through that experience where you're going to see things that somebody who's never worked with anybody before can't see. You're going to have to do this through a representation, but that's why it's so important because you can't explain these things verbally. There are different types of information: explicit information is the stuff that people read and watch on the internet through videos or somebody expressing something, and then there's the tacit. We're talking about the tacit element. There's only one way to acquire that and that is through experience. You can't explain it to anybody.

No, you can't do anything about it. You don't control the outcome.

Because chances are you're going to have to get ankle, pelvis, thorax at least, at least. Because if he's still driving himself forward in the thorax, you get too much weight bearing too quickly through the foot. So basically you just need to create the delay all the way up, or yielding strategy first and then, as I said, moving through in a less weighted representation.

I mean, not a ridiculous amount now.

Yeah.

I was trying to expand like a posterior side.

You need a ton of yielding. But again, they're going to measure stiffer because they need a higher force to deform that tissue to create the energy storage and release. So again, I don't want the skinniest rubber band that's easy to deform, right? Because that's fast, but it's not enough force. I don't want the fattest rubber band to deform because that takes so much force to deform that it's like a power lifter training to sprint. So let's look at the extremes. The person who's trying to sprint is too stiff. The narrow ISA kind of floppy, the person that gets hypermobile, right? They can't produce force either. There's this sweet spot somewhere in between those two extremes where the sprinter lives, where it's very, very high force with just enough yielding action. And so this is why training becomes difficult. This is why it's hard. It's because I've got to find that perfect sweet spot where the force production is exceptionally high and I get just enough yielding that I can store the maximum amount of energy and release it. Thankfully, people tend to demonstrate this stuff naturally. Like the fastest kid in the class is usually the kid that was gifted with this ability. And then we just have to enhance what he is already good at. It will be rare to take a high level power lifter and turn them into a high level sprinter, although I do know somebody who's doing it.

Compression. It moves it from more of that straight ahead plane that's sad.

So the upper thorax and the pelvis are going to turn in the same direction?