A lot more. One.

There's their pivot point. Think about it. You can do this sitting in your chair. Just pick up your left heel because I'm waiting that, right? To be clear. It might actually be touching the ground, but it's not fully weighted on the left side. Point being is your center of mass is to the right and it's going to be posterior. I have to be able to push that forward on the right side, moving past my first met head. So, there's my anchor to the front. I've got a first met head that would be on the ground on the left side.

It definitely makes it harder to come out because again, the bias is going to be towards the internal rotation, right? And so if I'm trying to train somebody to come out of it, if I want to make it easier, what would be the alternative?

Yeah.

You do see it all the time because those are the people that they run out of space, and then they come in and they go, hey, Alex, it hurts right here.

Gotcha. So getting back to the trigger idea. When I'm creating the fluid drop, right? Does the ilium have to go into some internal rotation representation to make that possible?

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

But I'm thrilled with the understanding of the difference. Like when you said that it depends on where you're working, it's like, yes, that's it. That's the answer.

You don't know, but presumably if they needed more of the higher impulse stuff and you might take the vertical down.

Yeah. And all you get is just the recognition of like, OK, how much time, how much space do I have to apply this force? And this is why I talk about strength training the way I do. It's like, I want a narrow ISA. I want them to be as forceful as possible, but within the time constraint that doesn't create interference. And that's the problem is because when you start chasing a weight room number, and you say, so-and-so needs a double body weight trap bar deadlift because so-and-so said that that's how you do whatever, whatever with somebody. It's like, okay, now you're just chasing something for the sake of chasing it and you create the interference yourself.

Yes.

It's for comparison. Okay. So again, in a textbook, if you take a picture of a pelvis in a textbook, it's going to be lined up. They're going to say that's the beginning part. Okay. Can you see me? I get a little bit of a shadow. So it's right there. Okay. Yes. Test question: If I was an ISA (inlet sagittal axis), would I get my first compressive strategy anteriorly or posteriorly? So it's going to be here. If I press that backwards, do you see that the inlet of the pelvis is on a 60-degree angle? You see that? You can see into it. It's not a bucket that's flat; it goes in that way. You see that? Okay. So if I push here, can you appreciate the fact that it is below the axis of rotation of the hip joint?

Okay, so I'm going to have to do it. This is pure shape.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Looking at A to P translation. If we're going to control for wider stances, so to say like they're both wide. Would I expect to see more A to P translation in the pylon, because they're going to need more time to push and roll through their foot? So that's probably just going to send them forward more before they're now transitioning upward.

I don't have Kappanji specifically.

So just a quick follow-up. From a training standpoint, say we're doing a little bit of bodybuilding here. You know, would you be starting with say like a hamstring curl to try to get a little bit of untwisting of the knee and try to get that late representation in the hip first to then do something like a seated hamstring curl? Once you have the late representation at the hip, you could then do something to get more of a twist at the knee.

No, I think that is the most available thing that I can do now. Well, I appreciate that. It's very kind of you to say.

Yes.

As he crosses over with the penultimate step.

If I'm standing, yes.

That was my quick question. Now I have one that is a shade, probably equally as quick for you, but a bit longer for me. So I'm seeing someone that when we get a representation, I've seen this more than once where someone moves into a split squat type activity. They're getting no pain if they've got in the knee if they have a leg in back so when the legs are behind them and they descend from back to middle they're getting no pain in the interior sort of interior slightly medial knee and yet go from front to middle so as in front foot descending into a lunge for instance they're getting pain associated with medial knee. At what point? Well, so pretty much as they're getting toward middle.

There you go.

Like the opposite extreme would be a screw home.

Sure.

Yeah, so that's where she started right now we're into the same issue that we talked about with just the one decision stands.

Okay. So what is the advantage? I'll be right back. I have to let the dog out. Okay, so let me talk you through something and see if you can arrive at the solution. Are we talking about a stroke patient?

Ah, you'll see some, like, you'll see some, like, ugly stuff at the, like, lower rib cage.

Okay. So I thought he was talking about adducting. So basically bringing the legs together.

Okay. Take that same scenario and move it down to the pelvis. So you have to get more and more ER orientation. So they get compressed A to P in the pelvis and the sockets will have to turn up and out to find ER. Because I have to have a space to move in until I run out of space, of course, which does happen. And so that's what you end up looking at when you have these really severe representations of lots of ER, no IR, until they get so much compression that they start to lose all of that ER representation too, because they can't get their spine to move. This is something that still has a spine that's moving, right? That's allowing them to capture some of the ER representation. You probably still have some orientation to deal with. But generally speaking, you've got somebody that literally, how do you get 80 degrees of ER? Well, you have a socket that points outwards, and you have a spine that can turn in that direction.