Kind of like up into the left.

So what's the problem?

So like, or just have someone in put a little bit of a distraction with a band on like the inner thigh, let's say of someone in a split stance, I trigger a tiny bit of a distraction. And hopefully with that, I can, I can guess that if they keep a nice shape, I'm trying to teach them to move within that range with a little bit less of external rotation.

I wanted to follow up on Tovar's question. You said that if you're in that ER orientation and you try to squeeze, you're not getting IR.

Okay. Since we're going to talk about hips, let's talk about shoulders for a second. Cause it's easy to see in a shoulder, harder to see in a pelvis. Okay. All right. So here you go. I'll tell you a quick story. I had a lady that came in. She is three or four months status post a right rotator cuff repaired. Okay. She had her left repaired a while back. And then she had her right one done. And now she's got frozen shoulder. So she's seeing in a chair like this. And she was like this before the surgery. Like this is not a byproduct of the surgery. Like you can see that she's been living like this for a while. So can you see the orientation of the glenoid under this circumstance?

Well, I can probably illustrate it better than I can.

Well, you have to have a point of movement, I guess.

The points of contact thing, I think, is a really strong point of contusion.

Yeah.

So here's a cue. The ease with which you can take a breath as you are exercising is going to give you a frame of reference as to how much compressive strategy you're using. Good morning. Happy Thursday. I have neuro copy in hand and It is.

Yeah.

So again, there's a tremendous amount of gray area in this discussion. If you were just taking a step forward, and your foot lands on the ground out in front of you, you're in an early propulsive representation. The foot is on the ground and applying force to the ground, but the greatest force is the one that placed the foot there. As soon as the foot makes contact with the ground, the force is still directed away from you towards the ground, then you start pushing against the ground, and the force comes towards you. As you apply more force into the ground and push harder, it becomes a proximal to distal force that is primary. Even though the foot is on the ground the whole time, the degree of energy moving towards you versus away from you differs. Both are present, just like ERs and IRs are always there, inhales and exhales are always there, and proximal and distal forces are always there. The key is the degree to which each is represented, which allows us to classify an early, middle, or late representation. Since both are always present, every exercise has an element of both open and closed chain.

It was just a high oblique.

And a bench press would be more in line with this one.

Okay. Yeah.

So again, it's like performance. Performance has a high level of variability in it. And then what I try to do in the training environment is I try to control for those elements. So I may emphasize one over the other, but they're all still there.

All right, and even with the position Zach was holding, I can supinate my hand, E-R-N.

But not actually hitting that ER representation just because of the force prediction in the ground.

It's like, if somebody's having trouble understanding what a reach feels like, you create the shape and then you say, now take your arm. And then they just created a reach.

It's the base of the first met head, right?

Yeah. So when I talk about an ER orientation where you're actually turning the sockets, right? That's what they would just call straight up external rotation. And I would call that an extra orientation because it is not the inhaled representation. Just pointing out to a space. Okay. Cool. Thank you. Does that help you?

I can see the compensation. I'm struggling to see how the tape is helping that. Because it's, to me, I still feel like I'm pulling, if I'm coming lateral under to medial, that feels like I'm putting her into an ER foot, which apparently she already is.

Expansion. You need expansion.

Exactly. I like it wonderful, cool. Does that help you? Yeah, I took what I understood about the arm bar and I kind of exported it to the hip. And now it kind of makes sense a little bit.

I'm afraid not. It would be nice, but I can't imagine knowing everything.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was his right leg. Yes, but both legs were oriented into ER. Just the lead leg is in early and the back leg was in late.

Hey, I have a question in respect to narrow ISAs and you might need to speak to me like I'm a five year old because I think I'm regressing as I get further into this rather than progressing. We get a narrow ISA and we can see them present in their later stages, either a swayback or an anterior pelvic tilt, if we want to call it that orientation. What I'm trying to get through my head is the stages that they go through that lead them down one path or the other. And at what point do they sort of part ways, if you get what I mean, which like I can see at the end of a swayback position where we've got that, you know, rectus abdominis pulling down really hard, dorsal rostral compression pushing them forward up at the back, the pump handles down, the lower posterior compression, so we're seeing these signs but what I'm lost in is how do they end up in the same starting position and end up in a different ending position. At what point does that change take place?

Maybe that's a cross-sectional view of a thorax.

Right.