Right. So that's what I was thinking is, you know, you're filling up from the bottom up, so your compressive strategies or compensatory strategies are moving this way.

But just stand up, stand up, boss. You gotta feel it. Stand up. Okay.

Yeah, of course. Do you lift weights?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. 'Cause they can't create it like in the joint.

It would be demonstrated mostly in context. So let's just create the context of the powerlifter that's squatting a thousand pounds. Do you think that he's got a patellar tendon that will store and release enough energy to lift that weight?

I had a question about the split squat and turns. So when we talk about a regular squat, we have a flat turn where we might see more of a shift to the left. Whereas in oblique, we have a shift that looks like it's going to the right. I was wondering how that would be reflected in a split squat. Say we have a left lead leg and a right leg back. I was specifically thinking about what we would see at the knee—at the front knee—in terms of it varying in going inward or going outward. I just wanted to talk about that a little.

Yes. So the connective tissue would have to deform to allow the dissipation of the energy to occur.

Okay. So that is an orientation to the left.

And so I'm like, you know, that's why this is, that's why this is not an easy job, my friend.

Yeah. You see what you got? You got an arm bar?

I feel it. I'm favoring this.

And so when talking about those internal dynamics and forces that we have to manage, what are the primary strategies that we as coaches and maybe therapists for you and others have access to in order to try and influence what's going on at that level?

I think you, number one, I think you stop doing the thing that sets him back. For sure. So again, you either respect the threshold or you change the activity. And then what I would do is I would change an activity that would promote a similar representation that you got from the one activity that did not bother him, which was the Zercher. So again, so maybe you got to do it. Heals elevated. You need something that's going to promote some measure of yielding activity posteriorly as he's performing the activity. Right? So front squat would do that. Maybe you got to go back to the zurchers.

Correct.

In what direction?

As to what we would classify as an early, middle, or late propulsive activity, one of the clues that we can use actually is foot position. We've talked about foot positions before. We're talking about the early representation, which is an EUI representation, middle representation, which is as the tibia translates over the foot, and we start to see the arch lower, and then we see the leg representation, which is again as an ER representation, but we have a difference in the toe representation there to give you that little bit of a clue. And what we can do is we're trying to decide how we're going to classify these activities. We can look at the foot position. We can look at the relative tibial position to the foot. And that's going to help us determine whether we're dealing with an early, middle, or a late strategy. And so this is what we talked about. It's actually not even a, it doesn't have to be a really long video. It's like this is about four minutes in change or something like that. But it will give you some clues as to how to organize your training in the early, middle, or late representations. If you have any other questions, Please send those to askapilharmonetgmail.com. If you would like to do a 15 minute consultation, put that in the subject line and we will arrange that at our mutual convenience. Everybody have an outstanding Friday. Go to the YouTube channel and subscribe. Don't forget so you get all the videos there and the podcast will be up on Sunday. I'll see you later.

Lateral aspect?

To get volume into the upper part of the thorax where I need the expansion to finish the reflection without a compressive strategy, I have to be able to reclose the ISA into an exhale position and then inhale from that position with the expansion upward rather than expanding the ISA outward in a compensation. If I expand the ISA too much, then I don't have enough pressure to push the volume upward to create the expansion in the thorax. So make sure you can get an exhaled ISA. Because of the position of the compression, we've got a lot of the exercises that we can use now. So we can go prone and we can go support through the upper extremities in most cases. So we can start somewhere around the general vicinity of 90 degrees for a lot of these activities. And we're going to work on maintaining a yielding strategy in the dorsal rostral. We're going to drive the pump handle up and then we're going to progressively increase the degree of shoulder elevation in these exercises. So eventually what we're going to do is we're going to be able to work towards an inverted position in many of these cases. To reintroduce the higher reaching and to make sure that we've got the ability to close the ISA, I really like a reciprocal alternating pull down activity and standing that hopefully you can see right here. This is a nice little activity to reintroduce some of the resisted stuff. It's very similar to the squat variation I talked about with the Hawkins Kennedy impingement problem, but this is a nice way to reintroduce that. We can also superimpose some cervical rotation on top of that, which will actually improve our ability to expand the upper dorsal rostrum area and finish off that flexion without the compressive strategy.

Gotcha.

Yes, because I'll be turning this way.

No, because again, I'm not moving the knee closer to the ground. I'm trying to translate forward. So I'm propelling myself forward, not down into the ground. So the thing about a split stance versus gait is that because of the position, the bottom of a split squat is a representation of middle propulsion. So the tibia should be forward over the foot. So the end of middle propulsion is there. If I'm doing a lunge, I'm not really getting to late representation, but the tibia is still forward. So I'm not pulling it all the way back into its latest representation. I'm sort of on the late side of middle, because my tibia is moving down, it's moving the knee towards the floor. When you're lifting weights and you're loaded and you're in these internal rotation positions, there's no way that you can access the end ranges of early or late. The load or the position limits how much extra rotation is available because extra rotation is where the biggest space is to move into. And that's where I would have the greatest relative joint motion. But if I give you two 20-kilogram kettlebells, one in each hand and you're going to do a split squat, that immediately sticks you closer to middle and takes away your end range excursions. So you're going to be playing like middle plus or minus a little bit of early, a little bit of late. So it squeezes that space in. That's why force production goes up because the highest force production is that max propulsion, which is that maximum internal rotation representation. Okay. So the foot should reflect that, right? The tibia position should reflect that. Because if you were in a true late representation, in a true early representation, it's very difficult to produce maximum force. And that's what a lot of people try to do because they can't access their full internal rotation capabilities. And so that's why you see substitutions in split squats and lunges and step ups and just any exercise really.

Go ahead.

They're just following the sacrum, right? So the sacrum is now over here. So there's straight ahead. They're just going straight ahead. OK. You see it? So this doesn't change. They're just literally like, if I sit in my chair and I face this way, that's all they're doing. So they get turned right and then they get shoved right forward. Well, if you're asking them to not move the axial skeleton, in a relative manner, right? That's what he was asking them to do, right? Cause he was saying, I don't know, he said they were doing a hinging motion, right? So if my axial skeleton is actually facing that way now. So it looks like it's going this way, but it's going that way, right? Cause I can turn my head a little bit and it looks like I'm going straight ahead. I can make sure my feet are going in that same direction as my face, but everything else is facing this way. which is not all they're doing, all they're doing is like literally they're, they're doing exactly what he's asking them to do. It's just that the orientation is taking them over there.

Well, I have a personal limit of how much time I have to spend on it, but you're welcome to ask me more questions. Somebody that you work with may benefit from developing a double body weight back squat that would enhance their ability to throw. Good morning. Happy Wednesday. I have neuro coffee in hand and it is perfect. All right. Well, today is Wednesday. That means that tomorrow is Thursday, which means 6 a.m. tomorrow morning. The Coffee and Coaches Conference call, as usual. I say this every time because it is true. These calls are getting better and better. The questions are getting better. We've got a great group of people. So please join us at 6 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. The link will be on my professional Facebook page just prior to the call. Today's Q&A is with Drew Keele from the QB Docs podcast. And so Drew and I had talked for about two hours a couple weeks ago and we recorded the whole thing. This is just one small segment where we were talking about a framework of how we would train a thrower. While we want to base everything that we do on principles, we don't know the outcomes. So there's a very specific way that we would implement certain strategies for training and determine based on the outcomes, whether we're following the appropriate process or not. So this kind of outlines how you might do that. So I think you could probably take this and apply it in any training environment. But again, this is one that's specific for throwers. So if you do work with throwers, again, drew some quarterbacks almost exclusively, this will be a really good one for you. If you would like to participate in a 15-minute consultation, please go to askbillhartman at gmail.com, askbillhartman at gmail.com, put 15-minute consultation in the subject line so I don't delete it, and we will arrange that at our mutual convenience. Everybody have an outstanding Wednesday. I will see you tomorrow morning at 6 a.m. on The Coffee and Coaches Conference call.

Right. But don't think of it as opposite. Think of it as moving through time because you never gave up the first strategy in the first place. You just added the next one onto it. It's just like when we talk about the axial skeleton getting squished by superficial muscle activity. It's a progression of time where you start to lose things. Like you literally just start to lose strategies. Same thing happens down the arm because the amount of load that you're putting through the extremity is like I said, it's just like pushing into the ground all the time. So all of the same twists that you see are happening everywhere. And they are the same because our construction is the same, right? So you're just looking at the same twist. What you have to discern is how much of each twist do you have? And that's just looking at things segmentally first and saying, where is my orientation? That's why understanding the superficial strategies on the axial skeleton becomes so important because that gives you your proximal representation. So if I know where this is, and then I can identify where this is based on how it bends and straightens, then that tells me what this orientation is. And then I do my little finger test down here, and I can get my wrist position. And so now I go, oh, the hand's here. The wrist is here. The proximal forearm is here. The distal humerus is here. The proximal humerus is here. Axial skeleton is here. And then there's your solution. See how easy that works?

Yes. Okay.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Well, I don't know if it's huge, but it's coherent. The goal is to make it coherent. So everything matches. It's like, here's your structure. Here's how that structure behaves. What's the rule? And so that's how I'm looking at it.