Supine, or even prone, no?

With what? Pete. Okay, keep talking. Yes. But now like I actually have like a case that I'm kind of lost in. So I have a lady who's like a narrow ISA and she has left knee pain and according to like MRIs, like she has like a little like a slide degeneration on the medial TBL plateau or like the medial side of the knee. She has a little like bursitis or some kind of inflammation on the patella tendon on the lateral side and a baker's cyst in the medial side of the back of the knee so it's on point so far it's on point yeah it's like everything sounds okay so far exactly so it's great and then the other day so like we worked on the posterior outlet because that was the first thing that we did with her like activity wise so that kind of got better and then the next time we started, I wanted to do with her, what did we do first? We solely did a basic couch stretch or like, yeah, tried a couch stretch, just getting just getting into like a half kneeling position, give her so much stretch on that left quads that like after that, like she was useless for the rest of the session, like even just doing like a hinge, her quads were like shaking like crazy. So, and then she has of course a lot of like, she was walking on her tippy toes like for years when she was a kid. Nobody told her not to do that until like eight or nine. And then now she has a very flat foot bunions like spreading of the forefoot just very, very wide. So I'm trying to get like, you know, both sides of the knee, like I'm trying to get hip and the foot also. The hip was really, I was kind of thinking that it because of the femoral rotation, or the twist in the femur, that's why we're getting into this like shaky quad thing, that the quad is not feeling comfortable working in those ranges or working with those angles, but I'm kind of lost on the feet too or like what to do. Like if she can barely sense stuff. So, yeah. Okay.

Yeah.

Okay. So here would be my trick question. No, it's too early for trick questions. Is a toe touch a bottom-up activity or top-down activity?

I feel like he does, yeah.

Yeah, OK.

Yeah.

Very good. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm not a Shenandoah fan. I was more Kelly for sure.

Situation as well.

Okay. So he's getting that right side bend that I am on the right. It kind of looks like through side bending to the right, right?

They don't have, if they don't have access to internal rotation, you do not have the sacral orientation. You don't have the pelvis orientation. You don't have the muscle orientation. It's like what you're seeing is an orientation. The most over prescribed and misprescribed exercise on the planet may be a split squat.

That way people know what we're talking about.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay.

In this case.

That's actually what it is. So no matter the length of the muscle, no matter the length of the muscle, even if it is longer than the middle range, it still can be concentrated orientation.

No, getting ready to go in. You have a reputation for eating on these calls. Not once. Not once have I ever done that. No, you ruin my program. Initially, when you started, I had biceps and triceps written for six days a week. But then you said, only the compound lifts, the big lifts, you said, so I just scrapped it. So hang on, hang on. It all comes down to how big your biceps are, dude.

That's okay. That's fair enough. I just wanted to know it just seems to be a common one I'm seeing.

Okay. What position would your patient and or client be in under that circumstance for you to be able to see the bottom of their foot? Brown. Perfect. Okay. So would you be taking that foot across the other leg under that circumstance if you were trying to get an ER bias or would you move it away from midline slightly under that circumstance?

Okay.

All right.

Right? So yeah, when we just, if you go at the jump, all the muscles during the jump is almost isometric contraction. I hope so. But yeah.

Yeah.

Are you not a test? Would that be low propulsion?

Okay.

Yes. This would be why maybe you would want to choose your contralateral load on your wides in a split squat because that's more of... Emphasize the... Yes.

Yeah. Okay.

Can I ask when you put his left knee out? And you said to drop the knee down. So that's the part where you want to cue. So you roll them a little bit because sometimes, when they cannot put the knee toward the floor, they just don't have that motion. So oblique sit is not for them.

It sounds like that's why my, so one or two drove the other and if I can get them feeling better that they can both do it.

Right. So what you're saying, I didn't think of that. Instead of it being about where he gains internal rotation or whatever, it would be more like, where do I, or what exercise can I give them to strategize more of that? So should I work more unilaterally with him on that one side that hikes up?