Okay. All right. So as far as strategies for this particular player, I've utilized rolling patterns, lazy bear positions, and so on and so forth. It kept it within, you know, that sort of easier activities for him. I tried to sprinkle that in through his lifts as well, using it as a recovery strategy versus adding more load to the system.

Right. So this is why we talk about spaces and not planes because those planes do not exist. Good morning. Happy Tuesday. I have no coffee in hand and it is perfect. The crazy week continues. Got extended family moving in as of today, so it's going to get busy around Casa de Hartman. Got a regular clinic schedule, so again, very, very busy. Let's dig into today's Q&A. I had a conversation with Jack. And Jack did a great job of asking questions in regard to some foundational elements that, especially the people that are first being exposed to my model, need to sort of grasp and understand. And so we talked about yielding and overcoming actions and how that influences behavior during walking. We talked about the shape of the skeleton, superficial compressive strategies, how that influences movement outcomes, force production in regards to relative movement and orientation. Let me see, I got a couple of notes here. Oh, how ER and IR are demonstrated in the split squat. Always interesting to talk about those because we have competitive strategies that we need to be able to identify in the gym. How context determines whether ER and IR are demonstrated. Some people tend to think it's like an either or thing and that comes from probably from a dead guy anatomy representation where everybody thinks that there's like this zero point that is straight up when the reality is that ER and IR are always superimposed, which one is demonstrated is going to be context dependent. So again, really good series of questions from Jack. So Jack, I appreciate you very much. If you would like to participate in a 15 minute consultation, please go to askbillhartman@gmail.com, askbillhartman@gmail.com, put '15-minute consultation' in the subject line, and we will arrange that at our mutual convenience. Don't forget that if you're looking for some foundational information in regards to my model, please go to my YouTube channel and subscribe there because there is a bunch of stuff that goes way back a couple years, in fact, and so you can actually see some of the evolution that has taken place in the model itself. Have an outstanding Tuesday. I will see you guys tomorrow. Recording and timer has started, Jack. What is your question?

Okay. So I live in Indianapolis. I'm going to tell you an Indianapolis story. And I know very little about racing. The Indianapolis 500 is big here for some reason, not really sure. It's probably like one of the oldest races ever. Anyway, so here's one of the things I did learn about these cars. The older cars were made out of the fewest number of pieces possible. They were very heavy and they were one piece. The drivers would hit the wall at high speeds, and accidents happened. When they hit the wall, the cars would be held together, and the driver would absorb all of this force. So you had one car, one driver, basically two pieces. They hit the wall. The car doesn't collapse. Like literally these things were made out of metal and stuff. The driver absorbs the force, so they had so many more injuries and deaths associated with the accidents. What the cars do now is they explode. When the car hits, it breaks into as many pieces as it can break apart into. Each of those pieces absorbs some of the impact and spreads the impact out. Then the driver doesn't absorb the force; all the little pieces do. This dissipates the force among many parts. The driver doesn't absorb it, so the driver doesn't get hurt. Their survivability is increased, and the risk of injury goes down dramatically. That's relative motion. All of these little pieces represent moving parts, and each one absorbs some of the force. This dampens all the force so the driver doesn't absorb it. You are the same way. The more moving parts you have, the more you distribute the force. If you distribute the force, it can't be focal enough to have any significant input. So you have to lock things together to produce the maximum forces. Then you release that, and that's what allows you to demonstrate velocity. Let's go back to the car example. Those pieces go flying at hundreds of miles an hour. They go really fast. They fly apart really, really fast—it's like an explosion. We follow the same rules. We have to compress and squeeze and limit relative motions to produce high forces. Velocity is the other end of the spectrum. We have to have lots of expansive capabilities available to demonstrate the velocities because they're not the same. Does that make sense?

I was thinking for when you were talking about using a band around the knees to help people get deeper, but then you've also talked about combining those two exercises. However, I think you explained in the past that you get that like hiding the hundred dollar bill example.

I got here with relative speed.

Because you're still stiff on the way down.

And I just want to verify that you just said that the greater the stretch on the elastic elements equals greater compression on the elastic elements.

Just a little bit, so they have to dig just a little bit deeper rather than me saying, 'Here's an answer.' It's like, 'What if you discovered it?' When you figure something out for yourself, do you ever forget it? No, because there's this wave of whatever you wanna call it—it's a reward. It's like, you do something great for somebody, somebody says something nice about you, you always feel good about it, right? But it's that wave of emotion that locks it in. It's like, 'Oh, I nailed it.' And then again, it's a memory forever.

Awesome. Thank you. And I hope there's not a capacity limit on the amount of these we could do.

Awesome. Okay. So at least you match and that's a good thing. So the chances of us having a constraint problem, like a structural change that we can't do anything about is reduced under those circumstances. Because if your shoulder and your hip kind of match, then that would be just lending towards behavior and then physical structure. Now you're just like everybody else. You have stuff that moves on the inside, right? That you're managing. And then, like I said, you've got this superimposition of the activities. So you're going to have to offset, you know, to as much that you can, you have to offset those influences. So you have two things. You have this the normal gravitational influences, and then you have behavior. So what have you done so far that has been effective?

Good, so anything that we have talked about in the past in regards to restoring that yielding action. So even as far as going, so she's going to be somebody that looks like the left shifter in a squat. You know where they're oriented to the right and as they sit down they sit back into the left, so you can use that kind of a thing all of your left rolling patterns around the table. She's gonna be probably gonna start her in like a short stagger kind of a chopping action to the left. Again, we're trying to perpetuate the left yielding action posteriorly, but you can unweight her. So again, she is constantly under load based on her physical structure. And so the chopping activities reduce body weight. So think about it, it's like, if I'm pulling a weight downward from an overhead pulley, that pulley is pulling me up. She's actually lighter under those circumstances. That's gonna be the way that you can sort of reduce the load. So we get the anterior muscle activity that she's gonna need to help maintain pelvic orientation. You get the yielding action on the left posterior side, and then you start to turn her into that left side.

Post them up in the Facebook group.

Okay, then from that point I don't change anything and I go down into the split squat. My pelvis, I guess my sacrum is going to turn to the left as I'm going down and I'm going to go towards a nutated position, right? And then if I pull the knee forward, I'm going to start in a more right-oriented position. So I'm not going to hit that nutated position as much when I go down because I'm starting in a more rotated position.

You have time to talk about four things.

Yeah. So we put it on the floor. So instead of putting on a six inch box, now it's on the floor. So what did I do? I just put greater load through the front foot. Now he's got to manage that. So it's just like putting weight on the bar. It's just another way to create a progression in the exercise itself.

Yes. Okay, okay. Do you need more than that? Yes, so think about it. What sensory input do you have if I'm standing up? Other than my spatial senses that I use—vision, audition, et cetera—what is the most impactful sensation that you have? I only have contact with the ground. If you look at shoe research, that's where it really starts to show up. They'll take three different kinds of shoes that are supposed to do different things to the feet. I think it's Scherry—the researcher's name, Scherr, or something like that. What they did was stick markers in the bones of the feet, which must have been the most pleasant experience, and then put them in different shoes and monitor the bones of the feet. What they found was that the feet don't really change much at all regardless of what type of shoe you put someone in. However, what did change was the upstream muscle activity. That's a big deal. Again, when you don't have contact coming up from the ground, the message doesn't get propagated up as to what you may want to be capturing in the hip, the pelvic orientation, or the rest of the axial skeleton. I'm very particular about how I orient the feet depending on where I want them in this propulsive cycle.

This is a coffee call. There is no off topic.

OK. But that's not relative motion. That is a compensation to allow me to do something in internal rotation that I don't have enough room for. You ever see somebody try to squat with a barbell and they can't break parallel and then you move their feet out and then they can break parallel? So all you did was you created a substitution for their lack of extra rotation. So you turn the system outward, not relative motion. Okay. It's a compensatory strategy. And now they have, they have an expanded field. So that's why I say it's a field. It's a space around you where extra rotation can exist. And then you can access the internal rotation that you need to lift the weight.

I have one more deeper question on the Bill Hartman show this morning. So on that note and kind of on the tail end of all of those, what do you think that personally, like inside of you—not outside of your environment or not necessary to learning—but you personally on the inside made you successful or made you who you are now? Like, I know that like, I think like you, like you put out some of the answers, but what do you think that's like the three like most successful traits in you? Well, number one: I don't know that I'm successful, okay? I'm happy, which is more important. Having a curiosity about what you do is one of the most powerful things because it drives you to continue to progress, right? I still have questions. I still look for answers, right? And so I think that that's probably number one. Like the minute you stop being curious, you don't ask questions anymore. And then you make an assumption that you know enough. And then there's no growth. And one of my greatest fears is that I'm actually an old man sitting in a nursing home sitting in a wheelchair and all this is being imagined, right? Because that's where I don't want to be. I always want to be invested and excited about what I do. And so I think the curiosity is the number one thing because it does continue to push you like when you're tired, but you still have to answer that one question because it's just burning up inside of you to have an answer. And so, I don't know if I would have a top three to be honest with you because I just think that the curiosity drives the excitement. The excitement drives the motivation. And then the discovery is the reward. So, you know, it's just people like to talk about, like they know something about the brain and they say, oh, it's your dopamine reward system. It's like, okay, so let's just say that that is what's going on. It's like, every time you discover something new or something of value or something that kind of makes sense, and you do get that excitement, you know, like, you know, getting the perfect red velvet cake with the extra buttercream icing on it, you know, what I'm talking about, you know, and then you put your favorite caramel flavored ice cream on top of it. Does everybody do that? Or is it just me? So it's that moment where it's just like, this is perfect and you feel that and then you get driven again. But without the curiosity, I don't think there's a cascade like that. And so if you're not curious about this and then you're not going to do well because the struggle is therefore a reason to keep the challenge in front of you, which is really, really important. But if you're not curious and then you struggle, now you hate yourself and you hate every moment and you can't live like that.

I think one measurement I can picture from your videos is that increased external rotation on one side usually is interpreted as that hip being farther anterior than the other due to constant re-gaiting of the posterior hip on that side. I know this is a very complicated process. That's probably best going over the intensive. Yeah, we probably do that at the intensive. But I was wondering how to determine which way the pelvis is tipped on an oblique axis when determining if reflection or straight leg raises are true. Okay, so Cameron, I think, and I'm hoping that we had a little bit of a typo there because we got a little bit of a misinterpretation as to what we're looking at with these external rotation measures. So let's do this. Let's go through how we would measure external rotation, what our expectations would be, and then how this measure can get pretty dirty as far as what is the representation and then what are the influences so we can actually determine what's really, really going on here.

I mean, that's a small dose of reality. Sometimes you actually got to do stuff to figure out what stuff you can do. Good morning. Happy Friday. I have neuro coffee in hand and it is perfect. Okay, we're going to do something a little bit different for this morning's Q&A. Something came up on the Coffee and Coaches conference call yesterday that was really, really good. I think it's an important thing for a lot of people that get into the fitness industry and rehab industries for that matter to understand is that we always want to set we always say that we want to work with everybody we don't want to limit ourselves and what we need to understand is that as we market our services that we have to start thinking more specifically while we may want to work with anybody and everybody when we direct our marketing we want to focus on that what Seth Gordon would call like a small viable audience and so I'm going to show you a segment from the call where we talked Nate through a process to sort of find his ideal client. And I think it's going to be very, very useful for a lot of people that are started out as technicians and now have become business people, whether they want it to be or not. And keep in mind, I am regurgitating information that I've learned from others. So, Pat Rigsby, I suggest you track down Pat. Pat's one of our greatest business coaches that we've ever had at IFAST and they've helped me personally, so I want to give him props. Dr. Michael Russell is right up there. As far as helping me work my way through this whole business world, which is really uncomfortable for me. Like I said, read the E-Meth so you understand who you are and what your role will be going into your business and how you might need to learn to evolve. This is a great little segment. It's a little uncomfortable for Nate. We kind of put him on the spot, so Nate's a trooper. I appreciate you, Nate. And the rest of the day, you enjoy your new year and we will see you next week.

So getting stuck in the sticking point, does that mean you have trouble transitioning shapes or that actually, or could it also be that you have trouble creating IR enough force production to get out of that shape? I guess that would be.

So let's talk about this a little bit because I think it's an issue. We're in very young industries, whether you're in rehab or whether you're in the fitness industry or whatever, you're in very young industries. And so what young industries do is they want easy and they want a cookbook. They want the recipe. They say, so I'm making beef bourguignon for dinner. Where's Austin? Is he still on the call? Because Austin's a great cook. But I don't think he uses recipes, right? So I'm making beef bourguignon tonight, Austin. I need a recipe. And it's going to taste just like when Julia Child made it, right? Probably not. So what you're asking me for is cookbook. Or you continue to take pieces and you struggle and then you learn how to put them together and then you master this and then you become the chef because then you can manipulate this at will rather than having say, if I see this, then do that. Right? Then you only have one if-then. And then what are you going to do when that fails? Seriously, what are you going to do? So let's go back to the Splitspot example. You see somebody lowering him down. You see that one hip that kind of stays up, and you go, oh, that's a lack of hip extension. Bill said, put their front foot up on a box. Cool. Uh-oh. That didn't work. Now what do I do? Because all you did was memorize an if and a then. You didn't recognize the principle.

Big chest. Okay, great. So that chest is attached to your sternum. And if the sternum is compressed, I can't internally rotate my shoulder, but to finish my lockout, I need some internal rotation. But what if I compress my chest so much that I can't finish the lockout? I need another strategy that's going to help me coordinate the rotation so I can get the elbow to fully extend. So then launch outs don't work.

Okay.

Yeah, well, sometimes you gotta speak the language to make a point, right? This is really hard for me to say it out loud. Okay, when people talk about but wink, what that is, is the posterior orientation of the pelvis and the flexion of the lumbar spine as a single unit. And that's the negative representation of it. And so when the whole pelvis posteriorly rotates, and if I'll show it from the front, and I get that kind of a thing, right? So it does that. Okay, that's bad because under most of those circumstances, the sacrum is still nutated and relatively speaking. And then you get deflection in the lumbar spine. That's where you get everybody goes, wow, look at the size of his erectors. And it's like, no, that's the lumbar spine flexing. Okay, now, as you capture depth and you get below 90 degrees of deflection, if I can get the sacrum to counter-neutate a little bit, and then you'll see the indentation at the thoracolumbar junction, so T11-12 will still have its little inward curve. Then you'll see the lumbar spine come back out and there'll be this nice relationship where it's almost, I don't want to say flat, but it's not the big rounding under of the pelvis when they hit death. And like I said, once you see it, you'll understand the difference in the two where one is a counter-neutation of the sacrum and the other one is a nutation with the orientation. And the one with the nutation, the orientation is not what you're looking for. You can get away with it for a while, but it's just not recommended because chances are, under those circumstances, you're walking around with a mutated sacrum. You've got an anterior orientation of the pelvis, which creates a compressive strategy on the backside of the lumbar joints. So what that does is it puts pressure on the posterior aspect of the disc. Enough pressure on the disc in that way reduces the blood flow to the bone above and below the disc that supplies the disc with its nutrition. The disc starts to break down. And then you have a flexion moment. And everybody says, oh, flexion causes the disc herniation, which is like, yeah, it's the end result. But it was the other crap that you did before with the compressive strategy that promoted the degeneration of the disc, the weakening of the sort of the radial structure of the disc. So you have to have all this extension based compression first, then you have a flexion moment. That's why we want to avoid flexion.

No, I am in the right shoulder at all, right? You know why? Because he has no internal rotation on the right hip either, okay? So what he's doing is he's trying to find a part of his body that will allow him to turn the force down into the ground. And so we see a side bend or a hip hike. Those are substitutions for internal rotation or they're demonstrating their lack of internal rotation. And so they're just getting it somewhere else. That's what you're seeing right there. So if you were to try to do this, like, let's just say you did it bilaterally, right? Simultaneously bilaterally, what you would see would be knees tracking inward and an increased arch in the lower back. Those were all substitutions for internal rotation. And so that's all you're seeing. Like in the big picture, the solution might be a little bit more complex than that, but that's why you're seeing that.

OK. They are adaptable. They change over time. But again, the hope is that we maintain the normal resiliency of those tissues. So when I push on it gradually and it can absorb the force, that would be a yielding action. It is the connective tissues that are yielding in humans. It is not the muscles from a modeling standpoint. Don't confuse the two. Okay. When I yank on it really, really fast and it snaps, that's an increase in the rate of the force applied. So if the rate increases, it makes viscoelastic tissues behave stiffer. When they are stiffer, they don't stretch as much. It's very, very difficult to deform them. And then they don't absorb and release energy like the yielding strategy does. So depending on the response that I need to produce whatever action that I'm doing, I need to have the ability to access the two different behaviors that I demonstrated. Okay. So if I have to, let me give you two examples and I'm challenging you here. Okay. So you're on the spot. So don't screw it up. Okay.

Because they're expanding straight down.

So yes, Lucas, there's an angle there. There's a very specific angle, in fact. So we call it the Camparini angle just because I don't want anything named after anybody. And so I just kind of make fun of Campo. And so anything that comes up that we have to give a name to, I name it after him. So the angle between the clavicle and the scapula, right? On average, it's going to be about 60 degrees. OK.