Yes sir.

I understand.

Got it. Thank you, Bill.

Okay.

Yeah. With enough time, you try to go in the other direction and recapture everything that they can for health purposes.

Okay.

Okay.

They have some other center of gravity issues, so this guy probably won't do too badly, but chances are he's still going to orient to try to get that just because of his physical structure and then his bias towards this type of behavior because this is a performance-related behavior. Right.

Okay, great. Yeah. He's definitely one of those people. He's super, super narrow, really tall. And his shoulders are just pulled way, way forward, like no arm swing when he walks.

But you're mostly connective tissue for a reason. And so that's really what's driving the majority of force production and force velocity.

No, absolutely.

I don't lecture. I talk, but I don't lecture because that's of little value. It's like standing in front of somebody saying, 'This is what you need to know,' while everybody sits there and thinks, 'Oh good, feed me, feed me.' And that's not fun or enjoyable. It's much better to have a discussion and get everyone else's perspective, because, as I said, it helps everybody under those circumstances. That's why you're going to get really, really uncomfortable in a very tiny room with a lot of people jammed into it.

That's why there's checks and balances that are built in. And so we take advantage of those. Again, that's how you know what you're looking at and you know whether your intervention actually works because people throw these little parties when they make these subtle gains in motion and all they're getting is changes in orientation, not the relative motions, if relative motion is the goal. And in many cases, when you're dealing with people that they're dealing with pain related issues, the starting point is to restore relative motions, first and foremost. You eliminate all other possibilities as to what it may be.

Yeah. Thank you. Exactly. And then my next question in relation to this, when I think of deep squat, my initial thought was heels elevated, right? But I know you've talked about for those narrows, like you got to be careful because I guess you mentioned like hiding the $100 bill. Can you go over that? Cause I feel like with the band, if you combine that, wouldn't that help with the heels elevated or is it going to be counterintuitive?

Well, you might. See, that's the thing. This is why we're talking about, when we talk about extremes versus a progressive degree of difference. The general rule is I have to move you back on the same axis that pushed you there. So if the axis is here, then I have to bring you back on that axis. If the axis is here, I have to bring you back on that axis, right? Because it's the entire pelvis that's orienting in that direction. So if I try, okay, so here's what's going to happen, okay? So if I'm going to right oblique, and I try to push you back on this side, what's going to happen? If I try to push you straight back on the left, what's going to happen?

Right. So with a chain, you still have that gradual unloading as you go down. So would you say that there's yielding action happening with the chain?

Like there can be drastic changes between even a little small one, a big one, an individual. So say you're trying to do that chop, and then you have like using a really skinny one. Like, 'I don't feel anything.' For say, no—I get you're not necessarily what you're trying to get is one thing. It's just they can kind of get it. Yeah, let's say you add that you go up one size, and then they go to do the chop, and it's, you know, we can't—your arms are strong enough now. It's also a huge shoulder load. Yeah, like and that's where it's like it matters in regards to a lot. Yeah, and okay. I know, how do you at that point? It's like, all you have to do something else, less of a chop, essentially?

Absolutely. Absolutely. The emotional investment is what consolidates the memory and the learning. And that's why it's important to struggle. Why do I answer people with questions?

of tipping in the thorax.

Okay. Do you notice the same thing in your hips?

I already know where she's at, dude. We're good up there. So here's what you're looking at, okay? She's narrow, right? Okay, so she is anteriorly oriented, so she's narrow, she's anteriorly oriented, and she's getting pushed really, really hard from posterior left, okay? So your flexion measures and your ER measures are magnified, right? So your external rotation on the table is the dead giveaway because she measures in a magnified manner, right? So we would consider that to be on average 90 degrees, she's 115. Okay, she's laying back on the table, which means you've got a pretty significant amount of anti-orientation that you're dealing with. So let's take the concept that we talked about at the very beginning of the call. And we talk about this anterior downward force. So her internal rotation right now is coming from this anterior orientation of the pelvis and the thorax. So she is way forward. So she's got a lot of load on the anterior knee all the time, okay?

Okay, but again, you can't compare them to anyone but themselves. So there I think lies a little bit of the problem. Because genetically speaking, we just don't know. So again, I would encourage you to look at this from a process-oriented standpoint. It's like, okay, if you think that he needs greater force production, if you think more muscle mass is the answer, do that and then see what happens. I'm totally okay with that. But you better have some form of indicator to follow that's going to let you know very, very quickly. If we're on the wrong path, we need to make a change very, very quickly. I think, again, the experience of working with people over time is one of those elements that is lacking. Because again, people are looking for yes and no answers, black and white solutions. When the reality is, it's like we are so gray, it's not funny. It's like, if you say, okay, this kid is underpowered, we need to add force production. Go ahead and add force production. But like I said, have something that you're measuring against so you know that if I accidentally take something away that was important. If you take range of motion away from somebody that needs as much range of motion as a pitcher does, did you help? You know and there's probably times where, you know, adding force production, especially through their levels of, there's differing levels of maturity where it's going to be like, absolutely. We got to drive tons of force production. I want to drive his ability to lift heavy things through the roof because I know it's going to contribute to performance, but that's not everybody. You can't put everybody on that same program because they're all at different places.

Late propulsive strategy, because the pelvis is turned to the right.

As I said, you don't have time to express anything in enough detail for anybody to walk away and go, wow, I really need to reconsider my thought process.

So I have a question that relates to front foot elevated split squat versus rear foot elevated split squat. When would be an appropriate moment to use the rear foot elevated split squat? Could you describe an instance or a client presentation for a rear foot elevated split squat and why you choose that?

But if I put the load on the right side or I put the load on the left side, depending on which leg is forward, I've changed the exercise, haven't I? I've made it easier to do one thing and harder to do the other. And so again, you just have to decide what the intent is. Am I trying to capture a position or promote range of motion? I have to do one thing because if I do the opposing strategy, I've made it harder. And there are times to do that. So once I can capture a position, now I may want to challenge you and say, make yourself get there. Now that you have the potential to do it, now I want to apply a resistance to make it just a little bit more challenging. Because so let's just say, all right, right leg forward split squat, right side load. Easier to drive extra rotation coming up out of the split squat in that situation, harder to drive internal rotation under those circumstances. So am I trying to capture the internal rotation at the bottom, or am I trying to make it easier to come out of the bottom? You see it's like, so, you know, that's why, you know, I'm such a stickler about not wanting people to think that there is only a way. People think that there is a good posture. It doesn't exist.

If you're actually rotated, you're moving away from the ground. So that means you're not putting maximum force into the ground.

So under certain circumstances, yes, there will be substitutions. We kind of just talked about it when we talk about, OK, so when you see somebody that does a traditional deadlift versus a sumo deadlift. The sumo positions the sockets outward to face out, which is a substitution for relative motion external rotation. That allows me to capture an internal rotation to produce force against the ground so I can lift the weight.

Somebody has to have a show today. Go ahead. You mentioned that you felt lost after a thing. Have you ever felt lost during your career path and what helped you find your spot or your place in your career where you didn't feel lost anymore?

And how do you do that? Like Kegel exercises or something? But is it like Kegel exercises or is it something different?